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Thread: which players will play their last test matches in the forthcoming ashes series

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Watto was doing exactly that. Quickfire 30-40 with the chance of a little higher on occasion. He was dropped down the order specifically because it wasn't what the team needed, hence why Cowan. Cowan is doing what Watto did but slower, hurting the oppo less and looking worse.

    Anyway, that's my perception of why Cowan will be dropped. He's not scoring tons and not really contributing so I'm guessing they'll go back to Watson, especially since he's been meh for Notts. He might not score many more but the way he'll go about it will hurt England more, he bowls really well even as a part-timer (especially in England) and is far more useful in the field.
    Shane Watson far more useful in the field than Ed Cowan? I don't agree with this, Cowan has been good under the lid for us. I think Cowan will continue for now just because there are other better with more question marks even if they have a higher upside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Shane Watson far more useful in the field than Ed Cowan? I don't agree with this, Cowan has been good under the lid for us. I think Cowan will continue for now just because there are other better with more question marks even if they have a higher upside.
    Come on, you're just being contrary for the sake of it here. Watson has Cowan beat as a catcher anywhere but short-leg, in ground-fielding and has a bigger arm. In the field, Watson an athlete, Cowan's a plonker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Come on, you're just being contrary for the sake of it here. Watson has Cowan beat as a catcher anywhere but short-leg, in ground-fielding and has a bigger arm. In the field, Watson an athlete, Cowan's a plonker.
    No actually, I said what I said because its what I think.

    Watson most definitely has a bigger arm, but I disagree that his ability at catching or ground fielding is anything above Cowan's.


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    Watson isn't really good at the whole moving around thing while fielding
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    Watson in the field resembles the Tin Man from Wizard of Oz.

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    watson does have a chat to the younger bowlers, not sure if what he is saying is of any use but he does
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    Can't help but feel as though Cowan may have played his last test

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    Cowan was never going to be anything more than a plug, imo. He's done well but is never going to be more than sufficient. As soon as a talented opener proves himself ready for international cricket, he'll take Cowan's place.
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    Watson as a bowler seams to have what it takes to get the wickets. Boof putting him up top of the order sounds strange for what people are used to for an allrounder I think but if it works gee I won't say no. I want a good opener to take the new ball out of it.
    Cowan does that too to a certain extent, yeah he probably needs to count himself lucky until someone really puts their hand up at shield level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrez View Post
    Cowan was never going to be anything more than a plug, imo. He's done well but is never going to be more than sufficient. As soon as a talented opener proves himself ready for international cricket, he'll take Cowan's place.
    talented opener?

    Was Katich ever "talented"? Graeme Smith?

    Anyway, There's only Warner who would possibly fit into the "talented" category without having major technical problems.

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    Talented, meaning having the potential to be a quality international opener. The choice of words may not have been ideal.

    As opposed to Cowan, who's done a good enough job, but will never be anything more than a useful domestic star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrez View Post
    As opposed to Cowan, who's done a good enough job, but will never be anything more than a useful domestic star.
    I don't get this.

    He has a decent technique. Has scored a century against a quality attack. And doesn't appear to have glaring weaknesses.

    I see no reason why he won't be a "quality international opener".

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    That's just it. He has decent technique. He doesn't have any glaring weaknesses.

    He's a good cricketer. But he hasn't got anything that will make him anything more than a useful international player.

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    "Useful" is still better than "has glaring weaknesses" though.

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