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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    khawaja, hughes, warner have plenty of potential
    I agree, but because they are never likely to be Ponting, Clarke or Hayden quality backlash wants to give up on them.

    Apparently CA is supposed to be a production line churning out world class players constantly.
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    No it isn't. All you can do is set up structures which ID and then nurture the talent you have to the best of their ability. That's all you can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    khawaja, hughes, warner have plenty of potential
    Plenty is a strong word here. They've got potential to be average/decent test batsmen sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    No it isn't. All you can do is set up structures which ID and then nurture the talent you have to the best of their ability. That's all you can do.
    Then unless Cricket is missing out on more of the talent pool then we previously thought then something has gone seriously wrong with the production line if the standard of batsmen going around are anything to go by or I'm I not allowed to question this?

    I'm sorry if I find the level of batsmen and the national team and domestic cricket not to be up to scratch. As someone who was a long time customer and gave CA a lot of money I apologize for not accepting a mediocre product from them.

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    If the players aren't as inherently good, how is that the fault of the governing body? I don't see how this is a difficult concept to grasp, frankly.


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    this is veering back into dangerous territory for backlash.

    Anyway, consider this. Kane Williamson is the brightest young talent NZ has, by a long shot. I wouldn't put Usman Khawaja below him in terms of potential.

    Similarly, WI has...Bravo?

    South Africa has? I don't even know, Duminy can't be considered young anymore.

    England has Root.

    India has Pujara and Kohli.

    Of these, only Pujara and Kohli have really established themselves.

    Warner, Khawaja, Hughes have just as much potential as any young batsmen around the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    If the players aren't as inherently good, how is that the fault of the governing body? I don't see how this is a difficult concept to grasp, frankly.
    but don't you see, it's CA's fault for not attracting the inherently talented players who are now playing golf, go karting, and paintball!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    If the players aren't as inherently good, how is that the fault of the governing body? I don't see how this is a difficult concept to grasp, frankly.
    It is CA's fault partly because they have allowed AFL, NRL to take over..if you were young kind looking to make a buck professional what sport would you play right now?

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    lol right on cue

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    What exactly can they do against AFL, though? They don't have the money or the space to evenly match what the AFL can offer a young rising star.
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    That's been the way since they all became professional. There's 15-20 well paid pro cricketing spots available in Australia, and hundreds of well paid footy spots across the codes.

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    Damn. All those ruckmen that could have been opening the bowling for Australia if they hadn't been snatched away by AFL. You could be opening the bowling with a Steve Finn from each end!
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    I think cricket has a far better chance competing against AFL in this country than it does competing against football in England.

    And honestly, I'm sure there are kids that are that naturally talented that may be privileged to choose between a career in either but that would have to be a rarity. I'm sure in most cases it would end up being like Shane Warne who loved AFL and Cricket but was supremely talented in one and just handy in the other.

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    nah it's not about the players that make it to the top, it's about the increase in competition that's better at developing those really good players. Better first class and club players.

    But honestly it's just ****ing tiring. You make do with what you have. There's competition between sports, just ****ing deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    this is veering back into dangerous territory for backlash.
    Yeah it is......and I guess all of us for getting dragged into it.

    Backlash.........why don't you start a thread in Cricket Chat about the management of Australian Cricket. I don't agree with much you've said but you certainly have raised some interesting points. I think the mods objections to your postings is not what you are saying but where you are saying it........this thread is for discussing the test at Trent Bridge for eg. If you started a dedicated thread for you concerns I'm sure you'd get some interesting and insightful responses and you wouldn't be pissing anybody off.

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    Out of all the talented yungsters we have had, who has chosen cricket over footy?

    that Keefe kid who captaind the U19 squad, and he hasn't come on at all.



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