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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Blokes like Hughes, Warner, Khawaja and Smith probably fall into that category. It's definitely a wait and see thing with those blokes, for sure.

    Have tipped Maddinson to make 5,000 plus test runs at 40+ some time back, which means he'll no doubt be out of the NSW side within 18 months. :-/
    So basically there's barely anything coming through then? It's not wait and see with these blokes, I can tell you now none of them will make it as top test batsmen. I'll happily eat my words if I'm wrong on any of them. Also Maddinson? Good luck with that. If this is the best coming through then wow, just wow.

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    Joey Burns and and the Marsh brothers for me if they can pull their head in.
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    I think it's pretty clear now the older brother won't make it and the younger ones batting has gone down hill while in the Sheffield Shield.

    Joe Burns? He's okay. But he's hardy going to be the knight in shining armour for that batting order.

    You pretty much have to put a line through the last 10 years of batsmen. It's a lost generation.

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    khawaja, hughes, warner have plenty of potential


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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    khawaja, hughes, warner have plenty of potential
    I agree, but because they are never likely to be Ponting, Clarke or Hayden quality backlash wants to give up on them.

    Apparently CA is supposed to be a production line churning out world class players constantly.

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    No it isn't. All you can do is set up structures which ID and then nurture the talent you have to the best of their ability. That's all you can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    khawaja, hughes, warner have plenty of potential
    Plenty is a strong word here. They've got potential to be average/decent test batsmen sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    No it isn't. All you can do is set up structures which ID and then nurture the talent you have to the best of their ability. That's all you can do.
    Then unless Cricket is missing out on more of the talent pool then we previously thought then something has gone seriously wrong with the production line if the standard of batsmen going around are anything to go by or I'm I not allowed to question this?

    I'm sorry if I find the level of batsmen and the national team and domestic cricket not to be up to scratch. As someone who was a long time customer and gave CA a lot of money I apologize for not accepting a mediocre product from them.

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    If the players aren't as inherently good, how is that the fault of the governing body? I don't see how this is a difficult concept to grasp, frankly.

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    this is veering back into dangerous territory for backlash.

    Anyway, consider this. Kane Williamson is the brightest young talent NZ has, by a long shot. I wouldn't put Usman Khawaja below him in terms of potential.

    Similarly, WI has...Bravo?

    South Africa has? I don't even know, Duminy can't be considered young anymore.

    England has Root.

    India has Pujara and Kohli.

    Of these, only Pujara and Kohli have really established themselves.

    Warner, Khawaja, Hughes have just as much potential as any young batsmen around the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    If the players aren't as inherently good, how is that the fault of the governing body? I don't see how this is a difficult concept to grasp, frankly.
    but don't you see, it's CA's fault for not attracting the inherently talented players who are now playing golf, go karting, and paintball!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    If the players aren't as inherently good, how is that the fault of the governing body? I don't see how this is a difficult concept to grasp, frankly.
    It is CA's fault partly because they have allowed AFL, NRL to take over..if you were young kind looking to make a buck professional what sport would you play right now?

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    lol right on cue

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    What exactly can they do against AFL, though? They don't have the money or the space to evenly match what the AFL can offer a young rising star.
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    That's been the way since they all became professional. There's 15-20 well paid pro cricketing spots available in Australia, and hundreds of well paid footy spots across the codes.

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    Damn. All those ruckmen that could have been opening the bowling for Australia if they hadn't been snatched away by AFL. You could be opening the bowling with a Steve Finn from each end!
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