All time Ashes XIs

[Burgey]

I'm actually at a loss as to how Burgey's picked an Australian Ashes XI without Steve Waugh.

Because as great as he was, the other blokes were better.

 

[Burgey]

Curtis
Moxon
Barnett
Afzaal
Crawley
Hollioake A (c)
Jones (Sorry GIMH)
Hemmings
Ormond
McCague
Cook N

Surely Martin Bicknell, Mark Ealham and Mark Illott are unlucky to miss out there?

Is you number 11 Nick Cook, the left arm spinner? I remember him often failing to release the ball in his delivery stride, like he had the yips or something. Was very odd.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Surely Martin Bicknell, Mark Ealham and Mark Illott are unlucky to miss out there?

Is you number 11 Nick Cook, the left arm spinner? I remember him often failing to release the ball in his delivery stride, like he had the yips or something. Was very odd.

Yep, we have a plethora of inept bowlers to pick from but I think you are harsh on Bicknell, had he been picked against any side but a marauding Aussie one he'd have had a very good test career. Don't get as many wickets as he did on the Oval pitches of the day without being a very good bowler. Showed that in his brief return v SA 10 years later.

 

[Burgey]

Yeah it was a bit odd he wasn't picked for an entire decade. They could have done a lot worse.

 

[King Pietersen]

Purely Average based XI (runs over 1000, wickets over 100):

Herbert Sutcliffe
Len Hutton
Donald Bradman
Ken Barrington
Michael Hussey
Steve Waugh
Adam Gilchrist
Charlie Turner
Bobby Peel
Glenn McGrath
Dennis Lillee

Most Runs - Most Wickets XI

Jack Hobbs
Geoffrey Boycott
Donald Bradman
Allan Border
David Gower
Steve Waugh
Ian Botham
Alan Knott
Shane Warne
Glenn McGrath
Dennis Lillee

 

[The Sean]

Top 6 runscorers, most dismissals and top 4 wicket takers leaves the sides looking as follows:

England:

1. JB Hobbs (3,636 runs @ 54.26, 12 100s, 15 50s)
2. DI Gower (3,037 runs @ 46.01, 9 100s, 11 50s)
3. WR Hammond (2,852 runs @ 51.85, 9 100s, 7 50s)
4. H Sutcliffe (2,741 runs @ 66.85, 8 100s, 16 50s)
5. JH Edrich (2,644 runs @ 48.96, 7 100s, 13 50s)
6. G Boycott (2,579 runs @ 46.05, 6 100s, 12 50s)
7. APE Knott (93 catches, 8 stumpings)
8. IT Botham (128 wickets @ 28.04, 7 5w, 1 10w)
9. RGD Willis (123 wickets @ 24.37, 7 5w)
10. W Rhodes (109 wickets @ 24.00, 6 5w, 1 10w)
11. SF Barnes (106 wickets @ 21.58, 12 5w, 1 10w)

Australia:

1. DG Bradman (5,028 runs @ 89.78, 19 100s, 12 50s)
2. AR Border (3,222 runs @ 55.55, 7 100s, 19 50s)
3. SR Waugh (3,173 runs @ 58.75, 10 100s, 14 50s)
4. C Hill (2,660 runs @ 35.46, 4 100s, 16 50s)
5. MA Taylor (2,496 runs @ 42.30, 6 100s, 15 50s)
6. RT Ponting (2,476 runs @ 44.21, 8 100s, 9 50s)
7. IA Healy (123 catches, 12 stumpings)
8. SK Warne (195 wickets @ 23.25, 11 5w, 4 10w)
9. GD McGrath (157 wickets @ 20.92, 10 5w)
10. H Trumble (141 wickets @ 20.88, 9 5w, 3 10w)
11. DK Lillee (128 wickets @ 22.32, 7 5w, 2 10w)

Not that it matters to anyone but pedants like me, but I'm sure DKL took 167 wickets against England. Being out by 39 wickets there, I'm assuming you forgot to count his '81 series.

You're welcome.

 

[Daemon]

Trumper/ Simpson
Taylor/ Lawry
Bradman
G Chappell
Border
Miller
Gilchrist
Davo
Warne
Lillee Pattinson
McGrath

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Trevor Bailey once said very positive things about Mark Ilott, and he played against the Aussies in 1993, so I assume I can select him based on WR8/9?

 

[Furball]

Not that it matters to anyone but pedants like me, but I'm sure DKL took 167 wickets against England. Being out by 39 wickets there, I'm assuming you forgot to count his '81 series.

You're welcome.

I lifted it from statsguru.

 

[King Pietersen]

I lifted it from statsguru.

The statsguru you were looking at was wrong then. Bowling records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[The Sean]

Ah, I see the issue - I didn't realise you were talking about Ashes wickets as opposed to "wickets vs England".

Lillee took 167 wickets vs England, but only 128 Ashes wickets as neither the 79/80 series immediately after the end of WSC nor the two Centenary Tests actually count as Ashes matches. That's where we get the 39 wicket discrepancy, not from the '81 series (where he also took 39 wickets).

 

[King Pietersen]

Okay, maybe your statsguru was right Furball.....

 

[harsh.ag]

The only picks in the all time ashes side worth haggling over are: Number 5 and Number 6, and the 4th Specialist Bowler

Number 5: Chappell/Border/Waugh/Ponting/Barrington

Number 6: Border/Waugh/Miller/Botham

4th Specialist Bowler: Trueman/Barnes/O'Reilly/Davidson/Larwood

All difficult choices. Do we really need an all rounder at 6 considering Hammond is already in the side, not to mention we could have Border or Waugh to bowl as well?

 

[Coronis]

Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Bradman
Hammond
Chappell
Botham
Gilchrist
Davidson
Warne
Lillee
McGrath

 

[Howe_zat]

What's a team of best Ashes performances?

Off the top of my head I'm thinking

1. Hobbs 1926
2. Cook 2010/11
3. Bradman 1934
4. Hammond 1928/9
5. Border 1981
6. Botham 1981
7. Gilchrist 2001 (?)
8. Warne 2005
9. Laker 1956
10. Lillee 1974/5
11. Tyson 1954/5

 

[Burgey]

Alderman 81 and 89 worth a shout.

Also, if you think Cook was good out here last time, Taylor made 830 odd runs in 1989, albeit in a six test series.

 

[GIMH]

Is there no way we can squeeze Freddie 05 in there?

 

[Red]

Taylor
Marsh
Boon
Border
Jones
S.Waugh
Healy
Hughes
Hohns
Lawson
Alderman

From memory only. I was 11 at the time. First time I really began to appreciate test cricket.

 

[morgieb]

What's a team of best Ashes performances?

Off the top of my head I'm thinking

1. Hobbs 1926
2. Cook 2010/11
3. Bradman 1934
4. Hammond 1928/9
5. Border 1981
6. Botham 1981
7. Gilchrist 2001 (?)
8. Warne 2005
9. Laker 1956
10. Lillee 1974/5
11. Tyson 1954/5

Larwood 32/33?

 

[watson]

Best Ever Performances in an Ashes Series:

01. Alastair Cook (2010/11: 766 runs at 127.66)
02. Mark Taylor (1989: 839 runs at 83.90)
03. Don Bradman (1930: 974 runs at 139.14)
04. Walter Hammond (1928/29: 905 runs at 113.12)
05. David Gower (1985: 732 runs at 81.33)
06. Ian Botham (1981: 399 runs at 36.27 & 34 wickets at 20.58)
07. Adam Gilchrist (2001: 340 runs at 68.00 & 26 dismissals)
08. Shane Warne (2005: 40 wickets at 19.92)
09. Jim Laker (1956: 46 wickets at 9.60)
10. Rodney Hogg (1978/79: 41 wickets at 12.85)
11. Terry Alderman (1981: 42 wickets at 21.25)

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