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    It basically just comes down to your choice of poison. Australia's middle order depth is absolutely rubbish at the moment so no matter who gets picked, there are going to be more reasons they shouldn't be picked than reasons they should. The candidates are a mix of players who haven't done enough yet, players who have had long careers of being above average Shield bats without standing out, talented players who have underachieved, players with disciplinary problems, players with attitude problems and players with technical problems.

    In an ideal world in which Australia had performing alternatives, Marsh would rightfully be nowhere near selection but in the current climate he's not a player that can be discarded, unfortunately. He's in the mix.
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    If they are going to consider a left-hander with discipline/fitness issues, then it should be Cosgrove

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    It basically just comes down to your choice of poison. Australia's middle order depth is absolutely rubbish at the moment so no matter who gets picked, there are going to be more reasons they shouldn't be picked than reasons they should. The candidates are a mix of players who haven't done enough yet, players who have had long careers of being above average Shield bats without standing out, talented players who have underachieved, players with disciplinary problems, players with attitude problems and players with technical problems.

    In an ideal world in which Australia had performing alternatives, Marsh would rightfully be nowhere near selection but in the current climate he's not a player that can be discarded, unfortunately. He's in the mix.

    Of course he is, and you're right absolutely.

    It's like the (vocal) majority of Australian supporters on this forum think we're still in 2001. If the cupboard isn't bare, it's very close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    If they are going to consider a left-hander with discipline/fitness issues, then it should be Cosgrove
    That's the way, lets pick a 6th opener.

    CW delivering here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    That's the way, lets pick a 6th opener.

    CW delivering here.
    Is Cosgrove really an opener? Hasn't he batted heaps of middle-order, too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by morgieb View Post
    Is Cosgrove really an opener? Hasn't he batted heaps of middle-order, too?
    Cosgrove has been playing as an opener for the past few seasons. If he gets a game it's as an opener.

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    why do people keep on going on about cosgrove he's a fat lazy idiot who cant be bothered trying for australian selection
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    why do people keep on going on about cosgrove he's a fat lazy idiot who cant be bothered trying for australian selection
    By the looks of him social's had a few dinners with him.

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    I saw nothing in Shaun Marsh last season to suggest he'd turned the corner. We always knew he was talented and that he has some spectacular shots and an adequate technique. And he's generally been capable of producing brief periods of heavy-scoring, especially in the shorter formats.

    What has generally been missing is maturity, an ability to regularly construct long-form innings without the consistent loose-shots and brain-fades that have resulted in him averaging 35 at FC level. His batting in the shield last summer and in the ODIs didn't suggest he'd suddenly developed that at 29 after a decade of professional cricket. He's going to be a very hit & miss proposition at Test level and I think we've got better batting options, both short & long-term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    That's the way, lets pick a 6th opener.

    CW delivering here.
    Whereas your suggestion is to select a very mediocre top-order batsman in the middle order

    Hypocrisy much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    Whereas your suggestion is to select a very mediocre top-order batsman in the middle order

    Hypocrisy much?
    Yes number five is the top order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    It basically just comes down to your choice of poison. Australia's middle order depth is absolutely rubbish at the moment so no matter who gets picked, there are going to be more reasons they shouldn't be picked than reasons they should. The candidates are a mix of players who haven't done enough yet, players who have had long careers of being above average Shield bats without standing out, talented players who have underachieved, players with disciplinary problems, players with attitude problems and players with technical problems.

    In an ideal world in which Australia had performing alternatives, Marsh would rightfully be nowhere near selection but in the current climate he's not a player that can be discarded, unfortunately. He's in the mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    It basically just comes down to your choice of poison..
    Unfortunately Spermicide's form has eradicated lately leading to a string of low scores while Pesticide failed to destroy other contenders chances so I guess we have to pick Khawajacide.



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