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    Actually upon reflection, I wouldn't be horribly against him being in the squad, just to cover all bases if nothing else.

    Henriques' tour to India was nothing short of a success if you ask me. Yeah he didn't perform across the whole series, but it was his first series, first time playing long form cricket in India and his stocks rose (a sneak peak of an upcoming thread I have in store) as a result.

    However, like n00fers n00fan said, I want Australia to have a make up of 6 best batsmen + 4 best bowlers + wicket keeper at 7. MH isn't in that framework at the moment.

    His Indian tour will be nothing but good for him in the long term, and on a similar tact I wouldn't be strictly against him touring England but he wouldn't be in my XI for any of the matches (exceptional circumstances aside).
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    Our real problem IMO is that there aren't enough batsmen in the selectorial frame to actually omit an all rounder.

    See:

    1. Warner
    2. Cowan
    3. Hughes
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    5. Clarke
    6. Twatto/Henriques/Maxwell/Khawaja
    7. Wade
    8. Pattinson
    9. Siddle
    10. Harris
    11. Lyon

    Playing Khawaja is quite literally the only realistic option to play a traditional 6-1-4 lineup, and Arthur will be anxious to avoid that scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Henriques' tour to India was nothing short of a success if you ask me.
    See that is the reason I asked.

    If you were against Henriques getting a test place in the first place, I think it'd be fair enough to also not want him to go to England, because you didn't feel he should have been selected, regardless of his encouraging performance.

    But I feel if you wanted him to go to India, there is no reason now that he should not go to England. He did not look out of place in the Australian test team, and his bowling will be even more handy in England. Although he may not have to bowl as many overs.
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    Watson fits into a traditional line-up surley? If he should actually be selected or not another matter.


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    My team for 1st Ashes Test

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    Paine
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    Pattinson
    Harris
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    Maybe even Clarke at 3, Hughes to open, and Warner to drop down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    Watson fits into a traditional line-up surley? If he should actually be selected or not another matter.
    Far as I care, he can mark out his run up or he can hitchhike to Nottingham. His batting form isn't good enough as a specialist no matter no many press conferences he holds.

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    In contrast to Cowan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Henriques' tour to India was nothing short of a success if you ask me./QUOTE]
    See that is the reason I asked.

    If you were against Henriques getting a test place in the first place, I think it'd be fair enough to also not want him to go to England, because you didn't feel he should have been selected, regardless of his encouraging performance.

    But I feel if you wanted him to go to India, there is no reason now that he should not go to England. He did not look out of place in the Australian test team, and his bowling will be even more handy in England. Although he may not have to bowl as many overs.
    Nope.

    I didn't want Henriques to be in the starting XI in India. Smith should have played ahead of him out of the squad picked

    Henriques should only play if they need to accommodate two spin bowlers, which unless there is a rank rank turner (exceptional circumstances) we don't have two spin bowlers worthy of selection in the same XI.

    The fact that Henriques debuted despite Australia only going in with one recognised spin bowler was a tactical error, but they got away with it because Moises batted out of his skin.

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    And I will say in addition to that, if he had played this season Andrew McDonald would be a more suited player for the all rounder spot, as he is a more accomplished batsman at the moment, and although Moises is probably the better bowler, the role should be one of a batting all rounder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    And I will say in addition to that, if he had played this season Andrew McDonald would be a more suited player for the all rounder spot, as he is a more accomplished batsman at the moment, and although Moises is probably the better bowler, the role should be one of a batting all rounder.
    yeah agree with that.

    We'd gladly settle for a mid 30s bat who could bowl a dozen economical overs and pick up the odd wicket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Nope.

    I didn't want Henriques to be in the starting XI in India. Smith should have played ahead of him out of the squad picked

    Henriques should only play if they need to accommodate two spin bowlers, which unless there is a rank rank turner (exceptional circumstances) we don't have two spin bowlers worthy of selection in the same XI.

    The fact that Henriques debuted despite Australia only going in with one recognised spin bowler was a tactical error, but they got away with it because Moises batted out of his skin.
    Sorry I am not following?

    Anyway by "you" I didn't mean you per se, I meant a hypothetical person.

    I feel I am not communicating my point well so I'll restate.

    I can't see why Henriques shouldn't tour England if one is of the view that they should have toured India. If you felt he was worthy of a touring India being close to making the Australian team (even if not in the best XI), then I can't understand how that view could have been changed considering how much it looked like he belonged. Yes he fell away a bit near the end, but it was very encouraging.

    So if one wanted him to go to India, surely he should go to England too, unless the conditions are playing a part.

    Does that make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Sorry I am not following?

    Anyway by "you" I didn't mean you per se, I meant a hypothetical person.

    I feel I am not communicating my point well so I'll restate.

    I can't see why Henriques shouldn't tour England if one is of the view that they should have toured India. If you felt he was worthy of a touring India being close to making the Australian team (even if not in the best XI), then I can't understand how that view could have been changed considering how much it looked like he belonged. Yes he fell away a bit near the end, but it was very encouraging.

    So if one wanted him to go to India, surely he should go to England too, unless the conditions are playing a part.

    Does that make sense?
    As I said, I have no problem him touring from an experience side of things, but then I wouldn't care him not touring because he shouldn't play a match.

    Ideally he should be having another season of county cricket so he plays plenty of cricket over there. In a touring squad he'd play the odd tour game but not as much as is desirable from a learning POV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    And I will say in addition to that, if he had played this season Andrew McDonald would be a more suited player for the all rounder spot, as he is a more accomplished batsman at the moment, and although Moises is probably the better bowler, the role should be one of a batting all rounder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    As I said, I have no problem him touring from an experience side of things, but then I wouldn't care him not touring because he shouldn't play a match.

    Ideally he should be having another season of county cricket so he plays plenty of cricket over there. In a touring squad he'd play the odd tour game but not as much as is desirable from a learning POV.
    Gotcha.

    What was your reaction when Henriques got selected to go to India, out of curiosity?



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