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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Of all the bizarre and absurd things howardj has suggested, dropping a spinner on the back of a 9 (should've been 10) wicket haul in a match has to be one of the most outlandishly stupid.
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    Lyon bowled well yes and hes such a likeable **** but still, he's been around for a fair while now and it took a pitch that was turning more than any other pitch he's likely to bowl on for him to finally produce a prolonged spell of threatening bowling and even then in the 2nd innings he was bowling pretty trash for most of it until the kohli wicket. I say take SoK to england as a second spinner but lyon plays as the frontline spinner unless hes complete **** for 2 tests in a row. tbh wouldn't be surprised if we see the poms try and produce a rank turner at some point after what they've just seen

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    Quote Originally Posted by dermo View Post
    Lyon bowled well yes and hes such a likeable **** but still, he's been around for a fair while now and it took a pitch that was turning more than any other pitch he's likely to bowl on for him to finally produce a prolonged spell of threatening bowling and even then in the 2nd innings he was bowling pretty trash for most of it until the kohli wicket. I say take SoK to england as a second spinner but lyon plays as the frontline spinner unless hes complete **** for 2 tests in a row. tbh wouldn't be surprised if we see the poms try and produce a rank turner at some point after what they've just seen
    Possible, but I don't think they'd have the requisite cojones to leave out Finn and play Bresnan at 7 (which is what they'd be compelled to do if they wanted two spinners).

    Then there's the whole will-Swann-be-fit question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Genuinely don't think O'Keefe would've taken many in the first innings.
    Genuinely didn't think Jadeja would take 24 wickets at 17 and make Clarke his proverbial bitch, either.

    I'm comfortable in speculating he'd at least have done better than Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy View Post
    Genuinely didn't think Jadeja would take 24 wickets at 17 and make Clarke his proverbial bitch, either.

    I'm comfortable in speculating he'd at least have done better than Johnson.
    This is bordering on redundancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dermo View Post
    tbh wouldn't be surprised if we see the poms try and produce a rank turner at some point after what they've just seen
    All five tests would be nice after what we've seen from our quicks in NZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy View Post
    Genuinely didn't think Jadeja would take 24 wickets at 17 and make Clarke his proverbial bitch, either.

    I'm comfortable in speculating he'd at least have done better than Johnson.
    The ****** down the road would've done better than Johnson, tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    This is bordering on redundancy.
    Yeah, look, he can't even help guys out with homework.

    Would be a better high performance manager than the incumbent though.

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    An early draft squad.

    Warner, Cowan, Hughes, Watson, Clarke, Smith, Usman, Rogers

    Wade, Haddin

    Pattinson, Siddle, Starc, Harris, Johnson, Henriques, Lyon

    We have alot of openers but that doesn't mean alot of options. Can't really move Hughes there if one of the openers fail as we want him at 3. And Watson's no monty to stay in the team anyway. Hence Rogers. I've come around to LHC's way of thinking. His 50 ave trumps worries over his 35 years. Plus he's made 3 fc tons this year in a difficult season for batting. I'd like to pick Cosgrove but; you know - skinfolds. Smith's good work in India gets him a no.6 spot.

    Keepers are a given. Hopefully the incident in India will convince the selectors to pick 2 this time.

    Harris just bowled 40 overs in 1st inns of the shield final so his comeback is going nicely. I don't expect he'll aim up for every match but if we use him like a grenade and lob him into a few tests he could unsettle England. Henriques for Hilf who has too many ordinary moments in tests for mine. However he's close to selection all the same. I've assumed Bird wont be fit.

    Only one spinner - Lyon. If they aren't picking SOK, for whatever reason, then I wouldn't bother with a 2nd spinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy View Post
    Genuinely didn't think Jadeja would take 24 wickets at 17 and make Clarke his proverbial bitch, either.

    I'm comfortable in speculating he'd at least have done better than Johnson.
    Oh yeah I'm not saying he wouldn't have been handy to have on tour; I would've picked him for the tour and I said so at the start. But that wasn't the point of the discussion at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the big bambino View Post
    An early draft squad.

    Warner, Cowan, Hughes, Watson, Clarke, Smith, Usman, Rogers

    Wade, Haddin

    Pattinson, Siddle, Starc, Harris, Johnson, Henriques, Lyon

    We have alot of openers but that doesn't mean alot of options. Can't really move Hughes there if one of the openers fail as we want him at 3. And Watson's no monty to stay in the team anyway. Hence Rogers. I've come around to LHC's way of thinking. His 50 ave trumps worries over his 35 years. Plus he's made 3 fc tons this year in a difficult season for batting. I'd like to pick Cosgrove but; you know - skinfolds. Smith's good work in India gets him a no.6 spot.

    Keepers are a given. Hopefully the incident in India will convince the selectors to pick 2 this time.

    Harris just bowled 40 overs in 1st inns of the shield final so his comeback is going nicely. I don't expect he'll aim up for every match but if we use him like a grenade and lob him into a few tests he could unsettle England. Henriques for Hilf who has too many ordinary moments in tests for mine. However he's close to selection all the same. I've assumed Bird wont be fit.

    Only one spinner - Lyon. If they aren't picking SOK, for whatever reason, then I wouldn't bother with a 2nd spinner.
    Dont think you can assume that the keepers are a given as:

    a. Wade was horrendous in India; and

    b. Paine is the selectors' love child and has proven that he is back to fitness

    I also think that they will pick 2 spinners and that Johnson should not be picked to play England again irrespective of the injury toll

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    Picking Johnson ahead of Hilfenhaus for a tour of England; really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    Bringing in Harris and S'OK beefs up the bowling nicely

    Harris, Pattinson, and Bird/Siddle, and S'OK looks a decent attack
    Please bring Harris, he'll break down during the 2nd Test.



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