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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
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    In no real order my top ten would be

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    Kallis
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    Chanderpaul
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    What's your reasoning for Sanga ahead of not just KP and Chanderpaul - but Kallis?. I get your Clarke ranking as I think he's the most vulnerable out of that lot to go through a real bad patch in the near future, but Sanga is definitely a player that alot of members have massive faith in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pup Clarke View Post
    What's your reasoning for Sanga ahead of not just KP and Chanderpaul - but Kallis?. I get your Clarke ranking as I think he's the most vulnerable out of that lot to go through a real bad patch in the near future, but Sanga is definitely a player that alot of members have massive faith in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Are you including KP as a South African or are you referring to players playing for SA? Who's your fifth SA (if not inc. KP) Faf?



    Don't think Smith is a gun captain at all. He has been a brilliant fit for SA and leads from the front superbly but tactically I don't consider him anything but reasonable/adequate in the captaincy stakes.
    I'd see his man management and leading-from-the-front qualities as extra valuable in a side like this compared to usual, because I'm assuming he has a gun attack. Clarke's Midas touch (I'm assuming it's Clarke) isn't quite so valuable when you have the resources I'm assuming he has at his disposal, though it's obviously extremely useful.

    Having said that, I'd still give Clarke the captaincy. But Smith's leadership qualities would still be very handy.
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    I used to be a big fan of AB, especially due to his lack of ducks, but Burgey's opinion of him has probably sunk in a bit and I do consider him a bit of a downhill skier. Not that there is anything wrong with that, much more fun than skiing cross country (Hashim Amla) or skiing uphill (Michael Clarke).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pup Clarke View Post
    What's your reasoning for Sanga ahead of not just KP and Chanderpaul - but Kallis?. I get your Clarke ranking as I think he's the most vulnerable out of that lot to go through a real bad patch in the near future, but Sanga is definitely a player that alot of members have massive faith in.
    Guess you missed "In no real order"...

    I listed him first because he bats #3 and that was my process. No other reason.
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    re: ABdV: Yeah I've been coming around to that opinion lately too (independently, I might add) - but to an extent that would just make him the perfect #6 or #7 (if he keeps)

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    My XI

    Smith
    Cook
    Azhar Ali
    Amla
    Kallis
    Chanderpaul
    Prior
    Swann
    Herath
    Steyn
    Anderson

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    Azhar Ali? Really?

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    Bet it's been a while since there were no Indians in the top 10 bats in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pup Clarke View Post
    What's your reasoning for Sanga ahead of not just KP and Chanderpaul - but Kallis?. I get your Clarke ranking as I think he's the most vulnerable out of that lot to go through a real bad patch in the near future, but Sanga is definitely a player that alot of members have massivefaith in.
    Its weird with Sanga. I don't have much faith for him in the shorter formats and I do think he is overrated. I was really surprised to see he won the ICC player of the year award* recently, but he is still a big wicket and rarely does he go a few Tests without producing a match winning knock, it was quite surprising that he did fail for the entire series against NZ.

    Not exactly sure why Clarke is the most vulnerable, is it just because he is a nervous starter or something? We are ****ed if you are right!

    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    I'd see his man management and leading-from-the-front qualities as extra valuable in a side like this compared to usual, because I'm assuming he has a gun attack. Clarke's Midas touch (I'm assuming it's Clarke) isn't quite so valuable when you have the resources I'm assuming he has at his disposal, though it's obviously extremely useful.

    Having said that, I'd still give Clarke the captaincy. But Smith's leadership qualities would still be very handy.
    Oh no doubt they would come in handy as they do for SA, I just mentioned his tactical decisions aren't brilliant or anything.


    *Sanga did win the award, yeah?

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    Averages mid 40s and has a bit of experience - more of a personal choice obviously but he'a huge talent who's fallen under the radar a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Bet it's been a while since there were no Indians in the top 10 bats in the world
    You'd have to go a long way down before you'd find the first, I reckon.

    Amla
    Clarke
    Cook
    Kallis
    Sanga
    Chanders
    ABdV
    KP
    Younis
    Mahela
    Smith
    Hussey
    Samuels
    Pujara

    Long way down, that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Bet it's been a while since there were no Indians in the top 10 bats in the world
    Yeah, only a couple of years ago we'd have Sehwag, Sachin and Laxman all arguably in it.

    Next few years will hopefully see Pujara in there.

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    Abul Hasan should be in everyones XI.

    srsly though, I can't believe people are discussing the possibility of not having Clarke in their XI.

    Am I the only one who saw him make 4 double centuries in a less than a year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Yeah, only a couple of years ago we'd have Sehwag, Sachin and Laxman all arguably in it.

    Next few years will hopefully see Pujara in there.
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