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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    Tom Craddock for second spinner
    Kerrigan? Rashid at 7 in place of Bairstow?

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    Panesar wasn't in much form and had a bad shoulder earlier in the summer but he' s played a couple of games since he was dropped/rested. Sussex play twice in the next 2 weeks in the championship so he should be getting some cricket then to judge his form and fitness. I wouldn't bother with the second spinner if Monty wasn't fit and ready. Kerrigans bowling hasn't looked that great this season, Tredwell is too similar to Swann, and Rashid would be playing as a batsman because his bowling would get smashed like Steve Smith and he's nowhere near a good enough batsman for that.

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    In other news, the fans' suck.

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    Aside from spikey rigging the Steve Smith vote and Starc being too high, what's wrong with that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruckus View Post
    Aside from spikey rigging the Steve Smith vote and Starc being too high, what's wrong with that?
    Siddle too low IMO, Hughes a bit too high as well I feel
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    oh yeah, the actual ratios are way off, but the top 11 isn't too far from the mark. Cowan doesn't deserve to be bottom of the pile, but at the same time I'd be excluding him in favor of Smith or Khawaja.

    Although going in with two pace bowlers could be a problem lol. The top 12 is alright.
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    the top eleven only has three frontline bowlers...

    can just swap khawaja and bird without too much hassle though
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    Siddle can't not play. He's not just a bowler; he's a leader. Probably the player whose game is least dependent on his mood for that day.

    He doesn't have to hoop it round corners or break the sound barrier, he moves it enough and he's fast enough. That, along with an excellent cricket brain and fidelity to a bowling plan gets batsmen out. Good batsmen. In other words, he's the player that gels the attack together. Not just by offering advice but leading by example.

    The whole "runs in all day, big hearted" thing has turned into a pejorative, and that's a disgrace. If we had a batsman that we could describe the same way he'd have a cult following by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    in other news, the fans' suck.

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    Man, Steve Smith is the People's Champion. Got more votes than Clarke. WAFG
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy View Post
    Siddle can't not play. He's not just a bowler; he's a leader. Probably the player whose game is least dependent on his mood for that day.

    He doesn't have to hoop it round corners or break the sound barrier, he moves it enough and he's fast enough. That, along with an excellent cricket brain and fidelity to a bowling plan gets batsmen out. Good batsmen. In other words, he's the player that gels the attack together. Not just by offering advice but leading by example.

    The whole "runs in all day, big hearted" thing has turned into a pejorative, and that's a disgrace. If we had a batsman that we could describe the same way he'd have a cult following by now.
    Siddle has no form to speak of and there are better bowlers in the squad

    Aside from that, pick him

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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    Siddle has no form to speak of and there are better bowlers in the squad

    Aside from that, pick him
    So he bowled badly in his only FC game of the tour? So did Philander in the lead-ups in both Australia and England.

    He's not entitled to a spot any more than the rest of the squad, but he's a proven quantity. If he averaged 28 during this series he'd be as pivotal as Anderson was in Australia.

    Siddle has never been photogenic to watch bowl, but he gets wickets and he's immune to self-doubt and confidence lapses even when the attack is falling apart around him. That is priceless in any big series. It annoys me no end that we piss and moan about our batsmen being mentally fragile but it's somehow a non-entity WRT bowlers. Starc could be a superstar or a disaster. Bird is an unknown quantity. Harris needs every over we can get from him before he donates his knee to science. What, exactly, is the drawback with playing our leading wicket-taker over the past 12 months?

    Siddle, Patto, Harris, Lyon is the best Test attack we can put on the park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy View Post
    So he bowled badly in his only FC game of the tour? So did Philander in the lead-ups in both Australia and England.

    He's not entitled to a spot any more than the rest of the squad, but he's a proven quantity. If he averaged 28 during this series he'd be as pivotal as Anderson was in Australia.

    Siddle has never been photogenic to watch bowl, but he gets wickets and he's immune to self-doubt and confidence lapses even when the attack is falling apart around him. That is priceless in any big series. It annoys me no end that we piss and moan about our batsmen being mentally fragile but it's somehow a non-entity WRT bowlers. Starc could be a superstar or a disaster. Bird is an unknown quantity. Harris needs every over we can get from him before he donates his knee to science. What, exactly, is the drawback with playing our leading wicket-taker over the past 12 months?

    Siddle, Patto, Harris, Lyon is the best Test attack we can put on the park.
    He didn't look that flash in the A tour games either, while I want him picked, his form is a legitimate concern.

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    Did you watch the A tour games Maximus? I think its so bizarre that Siddle's spot would even be questioned, of course I'm a fan of his but honestly if you were to pick Cricketers on their Test performances over the last year or two I would be writing M Clarke first, J Pattinson second and P Siddle third.

    Its Starc vs. Bird vs. Harris where the battle should be.

    Just as a side note, in Siddle's last Test match he scored twin 50's. No one else in the entire Ashes squad has managed to do that in a Test match this year. The test before he claimed a 5 wicket haul.
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