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    I'd be risking it in the 1st test also. Getting 1 up would be huge and our bowlers will be the ones winning games at the moment. Siddle is probably a lock though so hopefully he takes a bunch of wickets. I'm assuming Patto is a lock so I'll be hoping that Harris is the 3rd bowler if fit. If they dont trust him then I'd pick Bird ahead of Starc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangles View Post
    I'd be risking it in the 1st test also. Getting 1 up would be huge and our bowlers will be the ones winning games at the moment. Siddle is probably a lock though so hopefully he takes a bunch of wickets. I'm assuming Patto is a lock so I'll be hoping that Harris is the 3rd bowler if fit. If they dont trust him then I'd pick Bird ahead of Starc.
    yeah I mean like all of this debate about Siddle aside, if they picked Harris, Pattinson and Siddle I'd take that in a heartbeat atm. Just fear they might do something dumb and pick Starc in a three man pace attack or Faulkner in a 4 man one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    See, here's the problem; you're looking to judge the better quick like it's a game of ICC, who bowls the bigger outie, faster, etc. So much more to the profession and who should be selected than that. Bird has potential but there's a lot to be said for a bloke who takes 150-odd Test wicket and averages < 30 when everyone's had a good look at him and knows exactly how he operates. He's no genius but neither is Bird, their methods are very similar. So what if he outbowled Siddle for a couple of Tests; Siddle's been doing it for years now. That alone deserves respect at the selection table.

    You can't put Bird above Siddle because of two Tests. He bowled well, no doubt, but he's far less accomplished than Siddle at the moment. And, as I said before, the younger blokes can come in and throw everything at the oppo because they have the reliable **** at the other end. Siddle's plenty quick enough and if he had someone reliable at the other end, he'd arc up. But it's clearly not his role.
    May as well pick Onions for England off the back of the 2nd innings against Essex if Anderson has a poor net session.

    Siddle has to play, Pattinson has to play, Lyon has to play, Watson is playing. One spot left then for the rest to fight over. We need to end the Siddle yay or nay discussion as 90% of both sets of fans agree he should start the series.

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    What's trent bridge like usually for spinners? Do we really need to play lyon, especially if we have some better than decent part-time spin options if Smith plays. If Lyon didn't play we could go in with 4 quicks, and it would solve this dilemma - any combo of Pattinson, Siddle, Harris, Bird, Starc would be a solid attack. I just really fear what's going to happen if its Starc, Pattinson and Siddle. If they lose their radars, we are ****ed. There aren't enough steady options in there to hold it together if that happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruckus View Post
    What's trent bridge like usually for spinners? Do we really need to play lyon, especially if we have some better than decent part-time spin options if Smith plays. If Lyon didn't play we could go in with 4 quicks, and it would solve this dilemma - any combo of Pattinson, Siddle, Harris, Bird, Starc would be a solid attack. I just really fear what's going to happen if its Starc, Pattinson and Siddle. If they lose their radars, we are ****ed. There aren't enough steady options in there to hold it together if that happens.
    Usually not the best for spinners, Swann has a crap record there despite it being his home ground but he got a 10fer at Headingley earlier this season so that tells you all you need to know. The pitches will be dry and will turn.

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    Murali and Warne have done well there, but I suppose that's not saying much.

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    hmm yeah well I don't think it would be the worst idea to pick a 4 man pace attack with Starc. If the conditions are really conducive to swing, he could be a real game changer. It's just the times in between that he could damage us, but in a 4 man attack it wouldn't be an issue. Having an attack of say Pattinson, Siddle/Harris and Starc in it would make for a very good tail as well. Guess it's gonna come down to the pitch and conditions on the day...although Lyon being omitted probably won't even be considered even if it's ideal for pace bowling.



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