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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    How have they set Ahmed up to fail?

    IMO, they have given him EVERY opportunity to succeed (personal coaching, Aus A selection, long spells when his bowling didn't deserve it etc)

    He simply hasn't delivered in the 2 matches whilst Agar has been consistent with bat and ball
    Too much expectation. All this rushing legislation through parliament (it wouldn't have happened if CA weren't pushing hard for it) and talking him up has made him out to be the secret weapon. It was always bull****. Seems a good solid spinner, but hasn't proven jack yet. Now he has had two quiet games he's being seen as a numpty. Meanwhile Lyon must be looking over his shoulder and not feeling much love. It's fine to get guys on A tours and development programs, but they shouldn't be talked about as test selections until they've proven they can do the biz for more than half a dozen games. Fawad could be a great story if he has a strong Shield season and earns a call up, but equally he could be tragedy if he gets pushed up too soon and has a Bryce McGain.

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    agree with that adub
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    Seems like a bit of a panic move tbh. Clearly they rate the guy. A lot. And two statistically ordinary games (I say statistically ordinary because Brettig praised him after one particular day's play) has changed their minds to this extent?
    Indians can't bowl - Where has the rumour come from as I myself and many indian friends arwe competent fast bowlers ?

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    I wonder what we can expect from the lads on the back of the coach getting the sack so close to the series? Takes the pressure of the team to be expected to win. Maybe that will help some of them perform. I'd just like to see some good cricket and the lads putting up a fight.


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    Given that all the events so far seem to be in Shane Watson's favour, is it fair to wonder that he might have been the instigator?

    I'm thinking blackmail n00dz of Clarke or leading a players' revolt.

    I hope the full story comes out soon, it's set to be incredibly entertaining.
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    So on the England front it Compton is out. Not even named in the Essex squad or the press release announcing it.

    Wrong decision IMO.

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    should've made cook play for essex and have Compton and root bat off

    also have them opening the batting in competition for the other opening spot
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    I hope Compton gets 200 against the Aussies this week.

    Would prefer Compton opening with Root at 6 than Bairstow at 6 ATM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegionOfBrad View Post
    I hope Compton gets 200 against the Aussies this week.

    Would prefer Compton opening with Root at 6 than Bairstow at 6 ATM.
    Totally agree. Don't mess with Root at this stage of his career, he needs to stay at 6 until he's an established test cricketer, I see his future as an opener but not for a couple of years.

    And I'm still far more comfortable with Compton in the side than Bairstow. No doubt Nick has got to get some serious runs on the board to secure his place but I think some of the criticism coming his way may be a bit harsh. In 9 tests he's been involved in 3 100+ partnerships with Ali Cook and made 2 tons himself. I want to at least see him get the full home Ashes series without questions marks over him to see if he can establish himself against a decent attack.

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    Root is no better than 50/50 to succeed at opener IMO (don't like the way he treats rising balls on off stump) whilst Compton could probably be relied upon to hang around and frustrate the bowlers

    Overall, not a bad result for Oz

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    You can take it as read that, given the events of the last 48 hours, David Warner will not play the 1st Test

    So therefore six of the following seven will (unless Invers has completely lost his mind and continues to bat our keeper at six, with someone like Faulks at seven)

    Cowan, Hughes, Usman, Smith, Clarke, Watson, Rogers

    With a sub 30 average in his last two years of Test cricket, I think Hughes should be the one under the gun. I just can't see him offering any sort of stability at the top of the order. I would love to see Steve Smith rewarded for his fine performances in India, and on the A team tour so far..
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    bloody oath smith should be rewarded. think both he and henriques were hard done by after the performances they did put up over there

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    just to clear-up on Fawad, he has been sent home to finish his citizenship business, Agar is staying on in the same manner as he did in India, either could still be added to the test squad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    You can take it as read that, given the events of the last 48 hours, David Warner will not play the 1st Test

    So therefore six of the following seven will (unless Invers has completely lost his mind and continues to bat our keeper at six, with someone like Faulks at seven)

    Cowan, Hughes, Usman, Smith, Clarke, Watson, Rogers

    With a sub 30 average in his last two years of Test cricket, I think Hughes should be the one under the gun. I just can't see him offering any sort of stability at the top of the order. I would love to see Steve Smith rewarded for his fine performances in India, and on the A team tour so far..
    I agree Warner looks like he'll be carrying drinks in the first test. With that being so and if no one stands up and makes runs in the lead up games Faulks at 7 might not be the worst decision.

    I have pretty high hopes for Hughes, but he isn't delivering on them yet and Khawaja isn't doing any better. I frankly struggle to see both in the same side and wouldn't be at all surprised to see neither. I'd stick with Hughes as the incumbent on the back of how he fought in the last two tests, but he needs runs soon.

    I've always thought Rogers looks best in our line up at 3 and rather than open with him and Cowan I'd leave him there. Warner's brain explosion gives Watson the chance to make his case as an opener again. I don't think he's up to it, but he wants it so let him prove the doubters wrong. If he goes in and makes runs then great, if not then after a couple of tests of failure you can safely **** him off for good and bring Warner back in.

    That would leave no.6 to sort. I'd be happy enough to go with Smitteh as I think it could be his long term role, but we're not talking about any batsmen with great records outside of Clarke (and Rogers at least at fc level) so playing a guy like Faulkner who is probably just as likely to chip in with a 50 as most of the 'specialist batsmen' and picking up a bit of extra bowling might be the way to go. Of course I'd rather we had 8 or 9 bats with good solid mid-40s averages to choose from so that the idea would never be considered, but we don't. If it comes down to a choice of say a Khawaja scratching about for 20 or Faulkner doing the same I'd be very tempted to pick the Taswegian.

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    Rogers to ton up in the first test.
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