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    Smith surely in more form and favour than Watson.

    Surely.

    Just pick eight batsmen for the two FC games, the bowlers will be ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    Invers has just said they could bring Smith in. I have little faith they'll willingly do that. They'll willingly call in Ahmed, but they couldn't've picked Ahmed a month ago. They could have picked Smith. I feel Clarke's recovery will have to hit a set-back for Smith to get called.
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    Wow, I never thought I'd see Australian fans desperate to see Smith come into an Ashes squad, but he really has improved and I hope he gets a go. Not sure if I'd prefer a 4/5-0 loss which forces a clean-up of the team or a 2-1 loss where Watson/Warner/Lyon/Haddin have mediocre (but not bad enough to be dropped) series' and they do a similar thing in the Aussie summer.
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    Looks like Australia might win something after all - the hyperbole war:

    BBC Sport - Australia have world's best bowling attack, says Mickey Arthur
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    Sad thing is that I don't think it's far off at all and I still don't rate the side in general - shows how bad the batting situation is.
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    That and your keeper is terrible.

    But yeah Australia's batting is well and truely woeful, Rogers I tihnk will go okay, Cowan too maybe but aside from that I can see the bowlers being more useful batsman than some of the players.

    Should be imo
    Cowan
    Rogers
    Hughes
    Clarke
    Smith
    Bailey
    Haddin
    Siddle
    Pattinson
    Lyon
    Bird

    Although I think possibly for Trent Bridge you could swap out Lyon for another seamer depending on the pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    Looks like Australia might win something after all - the hyperbole war:

    BBC Sport - Australia have world's best bowling attack, says Mickey Arthur
    I think I missed something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    Looks like Australia might win something after all - the hyperbole war:

    BBC Sport - Australia have world's best bowling attack, says Mickey Arthur
    And this is why Australian cricket is truly in the ****...........their coach has clearly lost the plot.

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    Don't think Haddin is terrible tbh. He's not the greatest keeper of all time but he's none too bad. Or was Tom referring to Wade?

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    I think I missed something.
    Yeah the fact that the 2 main Australian quicks have sub 23 bowling averages?

    And the other two quicks have sub 30 averages?


    He's not far wrong.


    It will be alot better in a few years though if Cummins and Starc come on though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sphynx View Post
    Yeah the fact that the 2 main Australian quicks have sub 23 bowling averages?

    And the other two quicks have sub 30 averages?

    Who are these bowlers??

    Harris played 12 tests ave 23........Hasn't played a test match in 14 months and is likely to break down at any stage.

    Bird played 2 tests ave of 16............he's played 2 test matches mate.

    Patto, a whopping 10 tests to his name and an ave of 23.

    So you're selling yourself short, you have 3x 23 ave and under bowlers.........a cripple and 2 noobs.

    Anyone that says that bowling line up is the best in the world needs medical attention and fast.

    What they are is a bowling unit with a lot of potential and one day Mickey might be able to call them the best in the world, but right now that is a ridiculous comment. They are nowhere near it until they prove themselves.over time and in a variety of conditions. Don't get me wrong, I rate them all highly but lets keep a bit of perspective here. It would be like me claiming Joe Root to be the best ODI batsmen in the world........utter crap.

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    no it wouldn't. joe root isn't magic like stars like those 3 australian bowlers are
    Indians can't bowl - Where has the rumour come from as I myself and many indian friends arwe competent fast bowlers ?

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    While you have a point Adders, I think Patto represents more than just a noob with beginners luck, 5/90 odd on a dead track in India shows he isn't just a greentop bully. Anyway, it's not as if the world's best bowling attack is some magic bowling line-up either, SA struggled in Australia and somewhat in England, while the English fast bowlers often bowl like **** for extended periods (seriously, Stuart Broad, Finn and Bresnan hardly have batsmen shaking in their boots - most of the time). I would say Mickey isn't quite right, the SA fast bowlers are better, but not by much.

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    I agree very much with this article Daniel Brettig: Clarke's Ashes squad fragmented | Cricket News | Australia in England - The Investec Ashes | ESPN Cricinfo

    There is no sense of team with the Aussies

    It permeates throughout the whole system:

    - Rotations
    - Adding players to the squad
    - Having guys not in the one location

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    David Saker and Mickey Arthur are world class bull artists.



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