*Official* Road to 2013 Ashes - Page 14

Faizal Khan · 29-08-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MW1304

I hope its a really close series, and can sense it being so. I mean the closeness of the last Ashes was masked by those last two games; before that it was incredibly close. Can you imagine if that had been a 3 Test series? Crikey. But the teams are probably more evenly matched now. Cook, Trott and Bell were pretty much at their peaks, Clarke and Ponting pretty much at all time lows. More pronounced is the bowling. I'm not sure Australia's could have been any worse last time out, so I expect a big improvement there, and I'm not sure ours could have been much better. Once again it just looks very evenly matched. Can't wait.

I doubt Ponting will even play the next Ashes. He has a SA home series against Steyn,Morkel,Philander and an away tour to India where he has struggled.

For him to still remain in the team will require him to have a crazy resurgence or for the other contenders to be so bad that he'll still retain his position.

fredfertang · 29-08-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Faizal Khan

I doubt Ponting will even play the next Ashes. He has a SA home series against Steyn,Morkel,Philander and an away tour to India where he has struggled.

For him to still remain in the team will require him to have a crazy resurgence or for the other contenders to be so bad that he'll still retain his position.

I believe Punter's autobiography is due soon so I'm assuming there'll be a retirement announcement timed to boost sales over Chrimbo

MW1304 · 29-08-2012, 01:07 PM

Not really. It only requires him to play well enough to keep his place, which you wouldn't say is beyond the reach of one of our generation's greatest bastmen. Its not like anyone has been knocking the door down demanding selection. Can't see him retiring so close to an Ashes series, although Strauss has done it so you can't be certain.

Burgey · 29-08-2012, 06:00 PM

I think Ponting has averaged 40 or 50 odd in his last two tours of India, hasn't he?

Ruckus · 29-08-2012, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Faizal Khan

For him to still remain in the team will require him to have a crazy resurgence or for the other contenders to be so bad that he'll still retain his position.

Well, that's the thing...we don't really have many any other contenders, and the ones we do probably wouldn't do much better than Ponting. He has had somewhat of a resurgence in recent times, and needs to be given more leeway because of that, but I'm still not convinced he is anywhere near back to his best. I used to want Ponting out of the side if he continued his slump, but I really just overestimated the batting stocks we had at the time. They are poor, there's no denying that, and even if Ponting can only average around 35-40, it will probably be good enough to keep him in the team for the time being. Also don't think the tour of India coming up will be a problem at all. If anything during his slump he has seemed more comfortable against spin than pace.

AlanJLegend · 30-08-2012, 02:22 AM

Suppose Ponting does retire (or gets dropped), who replaces him?

Marsh?
Khawaja?
Fergusson?
Forrest?
Dussey?
Hughes
Bailey? (my pick for sure)

Similar question with Cowan. Suppose he has still doesn't get his breakthrough in the next couple of series, is there anybody better to replace him with?

wellAlbidarned · 30-08-2012, 02:39 AM

Expecting half of the oz pace attack to get injured lifting champagne glasses on the flight over as usual

Spark · 30-08-2012, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by wellalbidarned

expecting half of the oz pace attack to get injured lifting champagne glasses on the flight over as usual

Spikey · 30-08-2012, 03:32 AM

we'll just call up goofers

Burgey · 30-08-2012, 06:42 AM

Still think Marsh might get a run. I know he was crap against India but I remember getting out in a six a side match once to a bloke who had one leg shorter than the other and who struggeled in C grade.

It might just have been a similar thing with him.

If Cowan doesn't kick on I can see Watson opening again in England, or
Hughes again if he scores big this summer.

Pothas · 30-08-2012, 06:51 AM

Yeah I think Hughes will be back.

Sure Ponting will be there though, determined little bastard has his heart set on it it I reckon.

Spikey · 30-08-2012, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Burgey

Still think Marsh might get a run. I know he was crap against India but I remember getting out in a six a side match once to a bloke who had one leg shorter than the other and who struggeled in C grade.

It might just have been a similar thing with him.

did you get out to him at least 4 times?

Spark · 30-08-2012, 07:38 AM

And were you stoned at the time?

NUFAN · 30-08-2012, 08:01 AM

Australia First Test vs. England July 10-14 2013

1. P HUGHES
2. D WARNER
3. M CLARKE
4. R PONTING
5. S WATSON
6. G BAILEY
7. T PAINE
8. P SIDDLE
9. J PATTINSON
10. M STARC
11. N LYON

12. N COULTER-NILE

wpdavid · 30-08-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by NUFAN

Australia First Test vs. England July 10-14 2013

1. P HUGHES
2. D WARNER
3. M CLARKE
4. R PONTING
5. S WATSON
6. G BAILEY
7. T PAINE
8. P SIDDLE
9. J PATTINSON
10. M STARC
11. N LYON

12. N COULTER-NILE

Hussey? Unless he's retired and I missed it.

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29-08-2012, 01:07 PM	#198 (permalink)
MW1304 International Debutant Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: South Central Posts: 2,637	Not really. It only requires him to play well enough to keep his place, which you wouldn't say is beyond the reach of one of our generation's greatest bastmen. Its not like anyone has been knocking the door down demanding selection. Can't see him retiring so close to an Ashes series, although Strauss has done it so you can't be certain.

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AlanJLegend U19 Cricketer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Posts: 405	Suppose Ponting does retire (or gets dropped), who replaces him? Marsh? Khawaja? Fergusson? Forrest? Dussey? Hughes Bailey? (my pick for sure) Similar question with Cowan. Suppose he has still doesn't get his breakthrough in the next couple of series, is there anybody better to replace him with?

30-08-2012, 06:42 AM	#205 (permalink)
Burgey Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Castle Posts: 35,154	Still think Marsh might get a run. I know he was crap against India but I remember getting out in a six a side match once to a bloke who had one leg shorter than the other and who struggeled in C grade. It might just have been a similar thing with him. If Cowan doesn't kick on I can see Watson opening again in England, or Hughes again if he scores big this summer.

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Pothas Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Surbiton, UK Posts: 8,480	Yeah I think Hughes will be back. Sure Ponting will be there though, determined little bastard has his heart set on it it I reckon.

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NUFAN International Coach Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NSW Posts: 13,765	Australia First Test vs. England July 10-14 2013 1. P HUGHES 2. D WARNER 3. M CLARKE 4. R PONTING 5. S WATSON 6. G BAILEY 7. T PAINE 8. P SIDDLE 9. J PATTINSON 10. M STARC 11. N LYON 12. N COULTER-NILE

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