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    Slightly weird article about ricky ponting:

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    So on one hand:

    "This was the series I was playing on for without a doubt," he said.

    "I felt Australia would have been a stronger side in this Ashes with both me and Mike Hussey in the side.

    "The Ashes are the pinnacle and England is the greatest tour to be on. But the bottom line is I just wasn't good enough any more to be a part of this team."

    yet:

    Asked, inevitably, if he would come back if needed, the former skipper said yes but admitted it was almost certainly not going to happen.

    "You wouldn't say no, would you, if that call came and I would never say never," Ponting said.

    "But you have to say a call-up like that now is extremely unlikely."

    I don't really get that...if he thinks he wasn't good enough for the team when he retired, then why would he say yes to an unlikely call-up now? Unless it's taken out of context, and he was talking about an emergency situation where they needed an extra batsmen in the squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Lloyd George was Welsh, wasn't he?

    Question isn't directed at Corrin, obviously. He wouldn't have a clue.
    Yes he was.

    Richard Dickinson also professes to be Welsh.
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    Yeah, I read that as "I don't think I'm quite up to Test standard any more, so it's a waste playing on and unfair on the team. But if the day before the Oval Test the entire top 4 came down with gastro and we'd have to play Mitch Starc at 6, I'd come back and fill in".

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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMH View Post
    Yes he was.

    Richard Dickinson also professes to be Welsh.
    He also professes a deep knowledge of cricket tbf.
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    yeah, that's probably right. Although, Hussey's decision to leave was probably unknown to him at the time of his own retirement, so it would be interesting to know if he thinks he would be good enough in a side minus Hussey.

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    To the guy who said he can't wait for Pattinson to perform like Johnson did in 2009, that just won't happen. Pattinson's temperament is completely different. He's confident, aggressive and cocky. Johnson is a far more sensitive character, unsure of himself, very much a confidence player. If you want to compare Pattinson to someone in temperament, think Lee.

    Patto will at least play well. He is an archetypal Australian fast bowler. Harris and Siddle will play well. Lyon will bowl respectably. It'll be all about how many runs the batting line up can put together. They had a woeful series in India, but they are not short on talent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    He also professes a deep knowledge of cricket tbf.
    Needs to come back for the ashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3703 View Post
    To the guy who said he can't wait for Pattinson to perform like Johnson did in 2009, that just won't happen. Pattinson's temperament is completely different. He's confident, aggressive and cocky. Johnson is a far more sensitive character, unsure of himself, very much a confidence player. If you want to compare Pattinson to someone in temperament, think Lee.

    Patto will at least play well. He is an archetypal Australian fast bowler. Harris and Siddle will play well. Lyon will bowl respectably. It'll be all about how many runs the batting line up can put together. They had a woeful series in India, but they are not short on talent.
    Pattinson is going to have an excellent career but there is no guarantee he will have a good series, not bowled much at all in England has he?

    Harris will be injured.

    Siddle will be Siddle, nothing to fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    Pattinson is going to have an excellent career but there is no guarantee he will have a good series, not bowled much at all in England has he?

    Harris will be injured.

    Siddle will be Siddle, nothing to fear.
    Whatever attack Australia manage to put on the park, they will be miles better than the Kiwis who have hardly been taken to the cleaners by the English batsmen

    Anyway, everyone knows that the Australian bowling is not the issue - our batting simply isn't good enough

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    Southee and Boult are on the same level as most Australian bowlers but obviously Australia has a load more strength in depth. England don't need to 'take them to the cleaners,' they need to make decent scores, which I think they will do enough times to win the series. Australia have good bowlers but they are being hyped, really don't think they are any better than England's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3703 View Post
    To the guy who said he can't wait for Pattinson to perform like Johnson did in 2009, that just won't happen. Pattinson's temperament is completely different. He's confident, aggressive and cocky. Johnson is a far more sensitive character, unsure of himself, very much a confidence player. If you want to compare Pattinson to someone in temperament, think Lee.

    Patto will at least play well. He is an archetypal Australian fast bowler. Harris and Siddle will play well. Lyon will bowl respectably. It'll be all about how many runs the batting line up can put together. They had a woeful series in India, but they are not short on talent.
    after 10 tests Lee had played solely in Australia and New Zealand, no sub continent or RSA let alone the Ashes in England. He was quality in those early games but I think he's no where near as arrogant (or delusional) as Lee. He's a quality paceman, much more like McGrath, dare I say it.

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    Main difference between the Kiwi attack and the Aussie attack is pace. Pattinson can swing the ball as much as Southee but several notches quicker - that is where we'll see a visible improvement. If he can control the duke within time, he could be more dangerous. Equally Harris swings it at pace, but suggesting either will be consistently available is impossible in itself. Its entirely ifs and buts. I reckon that attack, with Siddle, could continually rip through our batting line up but it doesn't mean it will happen or is even likely to happen..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW1304 View Post
    Main difference between the Kiwi attack and the Aussie attack is pace. Pattinson can swing the ball as much as Southee but several notches quicker - that is where we'll see a visible improvement. If he can control the duke within time, he could be more dangerous. Equally Harris swings it at pace, but suggesting either will be consistently available is impossible in itself. Its entirely ifs and buts. I reckon that attack, with Siddle, could continually rip through our batting line up but it doesn't mean it will happen or is even likely to happen..
    Agree 100% but with the overrider that Oz batsmen will have to play on the same pitch and that is where we are ****ed

    IMO, Oz fast bowling stocks are POTENTIALLY the equivalent of the Windies mid/late 70s but our batting isn't far removed from current day NZ/Bangladesh

    You simply cannot expect a group of talented but inexperienced and injury prone guys to bowl Oz to victory over a 5 test series when the batting cannot be relied upon to score 150 on a road

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    From this article- The Ashes 2013 : Ricky Ponting backtracks over Ashes SOS | Cricket News | Australia in England - The Ashes | ESPN Cricinfo

    Comes this quote (referring to the homework saga)...

    "I can understand what the captain and coach were trying to achieve but I'm not sure I totally agree with what happened," he said. "I don't know for sure how I would have handled that situation but those type of things didn't happen when I was captain."

    Interesting.

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    Jackson Bird should have a decent say at some point in the series, assuming he gets a run. Which he probably will given injuries.



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