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*Official* Road to 2013 Ashes
- Thread starter GIMH
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The normal awards that everyone else has
And are they confirmed as being on Gem, or what's the go?
adub
International Captain
Sad to see they acted like dopes to start with. I've got no bone against Fawad and would be delighted to see him succeed, but the poor bastard has been set up to fail. And the same **** is being heaped on Agar's plate. Agar could be anything, but please let's not destroy the kid before his 21st birthday. Leave him alone to learn his trade in the shield for a while. If he really is the one his results will show it. Same with Fawad, give him a Shield season to demonstrate what he has rather than spunking your load after 2 or 3 games.
Justo
U19 Debutant
Not sure if it's been posted elsewhere but Micky Arthur supposedly getting the sack. Boof tipped to be his replacement.
The Investec Ashes 2013 : Mickey Arthur sacked as Australia's coach | Cricket News | Australia in England - The Investec Ashes | ESPN Cricinfo
EDIT: NVM already posted elsewhere.
http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/ashes-2013-2014/60036-arthur-sacked.html#post3085976
The Investec Ashes 2013 : Mickey Arthur sacked as Australia's coach | Cricket News | Australia in England - The Investec Ashes | ESPN Cricinfo
EDIT: NVM already posted elsewhere.
http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/ashes-2013-2014/60036-arthur-sacked.html#post3085976
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AlanJLegend
U19 Vice-Captain
I agree with letting Agar and Fawad having a couple of seasons in the sheild to hone their craft. If Agar really is the next big thing (as our selectors certainly believe), I don't see any problem with him going on tours and getting some good experience. Fingers crossed that he doesn't make his test debut against England though, Cook, Trott and friends would likely murder him.
As far as Ahmed goes, I think the problem is probably that he isn't THAT good. I'd like nothing more than to see him dominate the shield and be a huge success at international level, but from what we've seen he just seems like a good FC spinner (which fwiw is probably enough to make our test side).
How have they set Ahmed up to fail?
IMO, they have given him EVERY opportunity to succeed (personal coaching, Aus A selection, long spells when his bowling didn't deserve it etc)
He simply hasn't delivered in the 2 matches whilst Agar has been consistent with bat and ball
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adub
International Captain
Too much expectation. All this rushing legislation through parliament (it wouldn't have happened if CA weren't pushing hard for it) and talking him up has made him out to be the secret weapon. It was always bull****. Seems a good solid spinner, but hasn't proven jack yet. Now he has had two quiet games he's being seen as a numpty. Meanwhile Lyon must be looking over his shoulder and not feeling much love. It's fine to get guys on A tours and development programs, but they shouldn't be talked about as test selections until they've proven they can do the biz for more than half a dozen games. Fawad could be a great story if he has a strong Shield season and earns a call up, but equally he could be tragedy if he gets pushed up too soon and has a Bryce McGain.
Spikey
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Seems like a bit of a panic move tbh. Clearly they rate the guy. A lot. And two statistically ordinary games (I say statistically ordinary because Brettig praised him after one particular day's play) has changed their minds to this extent?
Tangles
International Vice-Captain
I wonder what we can expect from the lads on the back of the coach getting the sack so close to the series? Takes the pressure of the team to be expected to win. Maybe that will help some of them perform. I'd just like to see some good cricket and the lads putting up a fight.
LongHopCassidy
International Captain
Given that all the events so far seem to be in Shane Watson's favour, is it fair to wonder that he might have been the instigator?
I'm thinking blackmail n00dz of Clarke or leading a players' revolt.
I hope the full story comes out soon, it's set to be incredibly entertaining.
I'm thinking blackmail n00dz of Clarke or leading a players' revolt.
I hope the full story comes out soon, it's set to be incredibly entertaining.
LegionOfBrad
International Debutant
So on the England front it Compton is out. Not even named in the Essex squad or the press release announcing it.
Wrong decision IMO.
Wrong decision IMO.
LegionOfBrad
International Debutant
I hope Compton gets 200 against the Aussies this week.
Would prefer Compton opening with Root at 6 than Bairstow at 6 ATM.
Would prefer Compton opening with Root at 6 than Bairstow at 6 ATM.
Adders
Cricketer Of The Year
Totally agree. Don't mess with Root at this stage of his career, he needs to stay at 6 until he's an established test cricketer, I see his future as an opener but not for a couple of years.
And I'm still far more comfortable with Compton in the side than Bairstow. No doubt Nick has got to get some serious runs on the board to secure his place but I think some of the criticism coming his way may be a bit harsh. In 9 tests he's been involved in 3 100+ partnerships with Ali Cook and made 2 tons himself. I want to at least see him get the full home Ashes series without questions marks over him to see if he can establish himself against a decent attack.