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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post

    Btw Monk, why don't you think Patto would suit English conditions. He is one of the worlds best of course he'll play but it would be a bit surprising if he didn't perform.
    No doubt Patto'll play. imo Starc should play for LA variety and swing (prob our best weapon against Cook) and I think if Harris is fully fit he's our premier bowler for English conditions. I'll admit I've only seen limited amounts of Bird bowling, but he seems like the sort of Alderman type that'll be really good in England. No doubt however that Patto will play, and be very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Yeah I actually think Patto is well suited to English conditions. Solid outswinger on the boy.
    Natural length is full, always a good thing in England.

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    So hopes pinned on a 35 year old who hasn't played for 5 years. If we did that you'd all be laughing at us and saying how bad a decision it is. Not picking Johnson has improved your chances though. With so many left handers in the top squad Swann will have a field day if he gets a chance to bowl.

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    Always done well against Australia, has Swann.
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    Yeah look if you're talking up Swann as your kingpin I'm feeling a bit better about our chances. He won't be the one to win the series for you, Anderson and Broad will.
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    More worried about a fit Tremlett than Broad.

    Is he back playing yet?

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    I doubt he'll play either way. Down the pecking order IMO. Assuming no one gets injured, it'll be Anderson-Broad-Finn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Yeah look if you're talking up Swann as your kingpin I'm feeling a bit better about our chances. He won't be the one to win the series for you, Anderson and Broad will.
    He isn't our kingpin but you have so many lefthanders he will do his job. Add in the fact that many of these lefthanders aren't that good anyway and you have trouble. I did say he might not get chance to bowl as our pacemen will have field day against that batting line up.

    Can't see anything but a comfortable England series win. 3-0 or 3-1.

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    Finn is red ball trash, would welcome that, however I wouldn't be surprised to see Tremlett included if fit in time.

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    Yeah Anderson is the biggest hurdle. For sure. I think overall our 5 quicks are better than Englands 5 quicks. Unfortunately we are weaker in most other areas.

    The left hand thing is overstated, our 11 will have 5 RHB and 6 LHB or visa versa.
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    Australia potentially has a pace attack to rival almost any in history

    Unfortunately our batting, Clarke aside, rivals Bangladesh

    Can see us winning one test WACA style but our batting will almost definitely ensure that we wont win the series

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    I doubt he'll play either way. Down the pecking order IMO. Assuming no one gets injured, it'll be Anderson-Broad-Finn.
    Plenty of time for Tremlett to get himself back in that first choice attack, I think he will.

    Onions has started the season well as well, but he's probably 6th choice at the min
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    If Harris stays fit and spearheads your attack with Pattinson we might get a 3 day test somewhere as both attacks look the strength of each side. England have more reliable bats in the top 7 though, would say Cook, KP, Trott and Prior v Clarke is a mismatch. Australia need Warner and Haddin to have brilliant series and one of the other bats to stand up which hasn't happened before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    If Harris stays fit and spearheads your attack with Pattinson we might get a 3 day test somewhere as both attacks look the strength of each side. England have more reliable bats in the top 7 though, would say Cook, KP, Trott and Prior v Clarke is a mismatch. Australia need Warner and Haddin to have brilliant series and one of the other bats to stand up which hasn't happened before.
    This is actually why I'm hesitant to totally write us off yet, because when you get a bowler-dominated series like this might be (I'm not going to say it will be after Eng vs SA and Aus vs SA last year...) then the margins between winning and losing become very fine. If 300, 320 becomes a matchwinning first innings total, it doesn't need everyone in the top seven to make a sizeable contribution for that to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    This is actually why I'm hesitant to totally write us off yet, because when you get a bowler-dominated series like this might be (I'm not going to say it will be after Eng vs SA and Aus vs SA last year...) then the margins between winning and losing become very fine. If 300, 320 becomes a matchwinning first innings total, it doesn't need everyone in the top seven to make a sizeable contribution for that to happen.
    Yeah, a Clarke or Pietersen (or whoever) special can make all the difference in those cases.



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