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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Rogers has a very limited game, he can be bogged down easily with disciplined bowling and lacks the game to be able to put the opposition on their heels by manipulating the field when they try and tie him down.

    He is like Khawaja without the leg side play and added fire power. For the same reason I haven't wanted Khawaja in the middle order without first serious work on his game (as I have said on this forum on many occasions) I wouldn't want Rogers.

    Khawaja has time on his side. Still young and can easily develop those skills. Rogers on the other hand is in the very twilight on his career and I think he lacks the time needed to be able to make this change.

    Pity you can't pick that up by reading cricinfo hey Longers?
    Nah ****, it's pretty obvious we both commute to the MCG and Lord's every time Rogers plays an FC game at home. Weird I've never seen you there.

    Unless you're basing this on Big Bash and Ryobi Cup, which is the only chance you'd have to play argument ad Dickinson in terms of watching him on TV. Which, in terms of releasing pressure with big shots, has no relevance to FC cricket. At all.

    Rogers can be pinned down like any batsman, but the advantage of his age is that he has the maturity to not get out with a stupid shot when he's pinned down. Remember what Murali Vijay and Pujara did at Hyderabad on day 2? How they rode through Siddle and Patto's early hostility and only started to dominate in the third session with an older ball and tired bowlers? Rogers is the closest we have to a batsman with the discipline to do that, and he deserves a chance to prove it.

    There's plenty of firepower x-factor game-changers in the line-up if you want to put up 250 scores at 4 rpo. I haven't found any good reason to expect more of Warner, Hughes, Watson, Wade and Haddin.
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    I have seen Rogers play in first class cricket extensively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    I have seen Rogers play in first class cricket extensively.
    Well that settles it then, given a 50 average in Australian and English conditions isn't good enough for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy View Post
    Well that settles it then, given a 50 average in Australian and English conditions isn't good enough for you.
    So you concede you're arguing on the basis of his cricinfo stats and that you can not address the concerns that I have raised directly? You have just written what you think he does based on reading his profile.

    Ok cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    If Haddin plays but doesn't keep I will dead set kill someone.
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    Agreed
    Doesn't sound like much chance of that, but Wade playing as a batsman isn't out of the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    So you concede you're arguing on the basis of his cricinfo stats and that you can not address the concerns that I have raised directly? You have just written what you think he does based on reading his profile.

    Ok cool.
    You have watched Rogers in first class cricket extensively.

    Stats don't lie, you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adub View Post
    Doesn't sound like much chance of that, but Wade playing as a batsman isn't out of the question.
    If Watson is bowling, then there's no room as a batsman for Wade

    He'd have to unseat one of either Rogers, Warner, Clarke, Hughes, Cowan

    Can't see it
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    Overall, selectors have done a good job

    Could have been a lot worse and there are no really contentious selections

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHopCassidy View Post
    You have watched Rogers in first class cricket extensively.

    Stats don't lie, you do.
    Ok so now you are debating on the mistaken belief that I haven't watched Rogers in first class cricket? Righto, keep sticking to that.

    Must be just something about dat cricinfo profile pic that tells you about his style hey? Spare me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    If Watson is bowling, then there's no room as a batsman for Wade

    He'd have to unseat one of either Rogers, Warner, Clarke, Hughes, Cowan

    Can't see it
    Generally agree. I'm really only working on the assumption of Watson maybe breaking a nail and not being able to bowl. If it comes down to a non-bowling Watson/Khawaja/Wade as the 6th batsman then Wade is not far away from being the best pick.

    The other way he could get in though is if any of the top 5 get injured/suffer catastrophic form. He's no real show for the first test, but over a 5 test series it's not out of the question. I'd say it's a pretty fair chance he'll play at least one test as a batsman. I'd have his nose in front of Uzi frankly.

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    I question the marketability of Rogers, frankly

    A red-headed, bespectacled, freckled Sandgroper

    Ticks no boxes, for mine

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