Umpires need more sanctions against serious dissension (not the disappointed reactions that are a normal part of the game). Cricket should take a leaf out of Rugby Union books and allow umpires to "sin bin" consistent moaners against decisions and/or award run penalties.
Ponting would have been "binned" for 10 minutes for his outburst against Aleem Dar. But despite that, the Aussie media should not scapegoat him for losing the Ashes: his team were just beaten by a better side in this series.
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Get off his back?
It's professional sport. Ponting has lived by the sword, and taken pleasure in destroying other captains and teams (out on the field), and now he is experiencing the same.
Ponting would not want, and nor would he ask for any sympathy.
- lose you rag (like he did in Melbourne)
- lose the Ashes for the third time as the skipper
- average a woeful 16 in the biggest series of your career (his words)
- back guys like Doherty to be selected
...well, I think you can expect and deserve a bit of criticism.
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Still one of the best bats in the game? He just snuck into the top 50 in terms of Test averages in 2010. That's also debateable.
And as for his team leadership being second to none? It's the second best in the series in terms of captaincy, for a start. And that by a long stretch. I'd suggest he'd be in the bottom half in terms of world captaincy.
People are entitled to point the blame where they see fit. Ponting has now lost a record three Ashes, hasn't scored runs all series and his captaincy has lacked. I'd say he's deserving of it.
And you saying Australia haven't mouthed off in the media is hilarious. They've done it countless times over the years and have also done so in this series. Johnson saying he was going to bounce the poop out of Strauss, then struggling to hit the pitch in the first Test ring any bells? And plenty of people, Watson being one that I can remember, said before the series that all the pressure was on England. While I'm at it, I also remember a lot of bravado from them after the lone win.
I was underlining that Ponting and his teams beat the other teams using their skills "on the field". That is very different to media hacks trying to increase circulation for their newspapers by looking for a scapegoat for the poor Aussie performance in the latest Ashes and stabbing him in the back.
As for the record, in the 2009 Season the Aussies won 6 out of 8 Tests, 20 out of 26 ODIs and 4 out of 5 Twenty20s. including the ICC Champions Trophy. Currently Australia is ranked top of the ICC ODI list and fourth in the ICC Test list.
Not bad for a "disgraced" skipper!
I'll go on record here as saying if Australia win the World Cup, I'll run the length of the country. It won't happen. Their time is up.
And you didn't reply to my points because you know they're all valid.
Why is it so impossible that we could win the WC? Not saying we will, but if we're going by rankings...
Originally Posted by Peter Mooresforever 63*
Pretty stupid to write off a team that hasn't lost a World Cup match in over a decade (God, I desperately hope that streak comes to an end here ).
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