Do you think Stuart Broad's injury.... - Page 3

Black_Warrior · 29-12-2010, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bun

How'd he go in South Africa? Personally I believe he's a better bowler than those stats suggest, I am not sure he would've emulated what Tiny Ts did.

His best performance there
2nd Test: South Africa v England at Durban, Dec 26-30, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

wpdavid · 30-12-2010, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FBU

Broad this year

10 Tests 332.4 overs 26 wickets at 37.69 econ 2.94 s/r 76.7

That's not good, especiallly, as Uppercut said, mostly at home against Bang and Pakistan in pretty helpful conditions. Rather supports the view that his bowling has actually regressed this year after improving significantly in 2009. Perhaps the competition from Tremlett & Bresnan will focus his mind somewhat.

GingerFurball · 30-12-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wpdavid

That's not good, especiallly, as Uppercut said, mostly at home against Bang and Pakistan in pretty helpful conditions. Rather supports the view that his bowling has actually regressed this year after improving significantly in 2009. Perhaps the competition from Tremlett & Bresnan will focus his mind somewhat.

Broad didn't play the home Bangladesh series (was rested to do conditioning work), and took 14 wickets @ 23 against Pakistan.

Funnily enough, the two bowlers who were given breaks to do conditioning work are currently injured.

marc71178 · 30-12-2010, 04:38 PM

Who was the second?

Spark · 30-12-2010, 04:41 PM

Onions?

GingerFurball · 30-12-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

Who was the second?

Finn. I thought one of the reasons he was a doubt for Melbourne was because he was carrying a knock?

marc71178 · 30-12-2010, 05:21 PM

Not so sure, if it weren't for the strength in depth (and Tremlett proving himself at Perth) I sus[ect he'd have played considering Broad was out.

wpdavid · 31-12-2010, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GingerFurball

Broad didn't play the home Bangladesh series (was rested to do conditioning work), and took 14 wickets @ 23 against Pakistan.

Funnily enough, the two bowlers who were given breaks to do conditioning work are currently injured.

Fair point - I'd completely forgotten about Broad missing the home tests against Bang.

Not sure about Finn being injured though: I thought he was dropped.

MW1304 · 31-12-2010, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FBU

Broad this year

10 Tests 332.4 overs 26 wickets at 37.69 econ 2.94 s/r 76.7

Lots of wickets at 23 against Pakistan in the summer; not a lot of luck against Australia in the first two tests, despite being pretty useful.

I think getting 2 wickets at 80 in those tests didn't help the average, either.

King Pietersen · 01-01-2011, 06:04 AM

Looking at purely the stats to judge Stuart Broad's bowling is not fair at all. He bowled very, very well last year. If you based his Ashes this time round purely on stats you'd imagine he'd had an awful tour, but I thought he was the pick of the bowlers in the first Test, and bowled very well without reward in the 2nd. His bowling has definitely come on a long way, and he should still be a part of the bowling attack. Anderson, Tremlett and Broad is easily our best attack for me.

GIMH · 01-01-2011, 07:33 AM

Some people on here believe in bowling partnerships more than others, so I'm not really prepared to get bogged down in a lengthy discussion about what I'm about to say. I feel, though, that Broad's role in 2010 was to support Anderson and I think he's done so brilliantly. It's no coincidence that Anderson has had by far and away his best ever seasons.

Rant0r · 02-01-2011, 05:21 AM

Wickets against Pakistan is not a lot to write home about really.

I think Finn's omission was partly form, leaking runs from uncharacteristic pie bowling yet taking wickets, and soreness. lets not forget Finn is still young and Australia is a long and arduous tour. Leaving him out was the right thing to do in the short and long term.

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30-12-2010, 05:21 PM	#37 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	Not so sure, if it weren't for the strength in depth (and Tremlett proving himself at Perth) I sus[ect he'd have played considering Broad was out.

02-01-2011, 05:21 AM	#42 (permalink)
Rant0r International 12th Man Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Country West Australia Posts: 1,534	Wickets against Pakistan is not a lot to write home about really. I think Finn's omission was partly form, leaking runs from uncharacteristic pie bowling yet taking wickets, and soreness. lets not forget Finn is still young and Australia is a long and arduous tour. Leaving him out was the right thing to do in the short and long term.

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