Should Australia drop Michael Clarke for the Fifth Test?

slippy888 · 28-12-2010, 11:49 AM

And bring in Cameron White to replace him.

Blaze 18 · 28-12-2010, 11:54 AM

How has he done any worse than some of the other batsmen ?

kingkallis · 28-12-2010, 11:55 AM

Yet another desperate poll.

morgieb · 28-12-2010, 02:37 PM

Dumb thread. Yeah he hasn't been good this Ashes but he hasn't been worse than Ponting, Hughes, Smith and is still our future hope.

People just seem to want a chance to bash Clarke whatever he does.

Son Of Coco · 28-12-2010, 04:26 PM

May have voted yes if you came up with a decent replacement.

NUFAN · 28-12-2010, 04:30 PM

WTF would Clarke need a rest? He stands in the slips and can't bat out a session. Rest him for the T20, permantely.

Spark · 28-12-2010, 05:53 PM

Lolling at people who still think White would be any better at facing the moving ball.

Burgey · 28-12-2010, 06:20 PM

Kerry O'Keeffe made some interesting points about how Australian players deal with the moving ball. He was suggesting far less reliance on bowling machines, and that as a general rule practice wickets should be left with grass on them, and the batsmen made to face two piece balls.

He wasn't talking about the established players, more the up am comers.

I think it has some merit tbh.

As for Clarke, nah, I wouldn't drop him. He's a class player who's playing poorly. I don't think you can say he's especially weak technically to the moving ball, given his 09 Ashes series. I would have said so in 05 for sure. He's a good player out of nick - too good to be discarded for an untried or unproven state player, IMO anyway.

flibbertyjibber · 28-12-2010, 06:26 PM

All depends on whether his back is causing more problems than have been said i guess. He looks woefully out of form but is a class act. I guess another thing that may come into the equation may be whether Ponting plays or not.

MattO · 28-12-2010, 08:23 PM

Clarke should be the first player dropped and please CA get rid of Clarke and the Gen-Y culture he has brought to the Australian team.

Spikey · 28-12-2010, 09:03 PM

Michael Clarke is Gen-X bro.

Burgey · 28-12-2010, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber

All depends on whether his back is causing more problems than have been said i guess. He looks woefully out of form but is a class act. I guess another thing that may come into the equation may be whether Ponting plays or not.

Tbh I'd not factored in his back at all. Is a concern I'd imagine.

I heard Geoff Lawson on the radio today talking about injury management. He seemed to be suggesting if a bowler goes down injured after bowling X balls in a shortish time frame, the medicos stipulate the quicks not to bowl more than that number.

If that's right it seems the weirdest thing ever to me. Surely they're all different, have different thresholds an such.

I think they're trying to produce robots here, and they're all doing a HAL.

Spark · 28-12-2010, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikey

Michael Clarke is Gen-X bro.

Don't confuse things with facts.

Although strictly speaking he could be called both as there is an overlap about 1980 or so.

Having said that, you know you're off your rocker when you start talking about Gen X/Y in terms of cricketing selection policy.

robinjr · 28-12-2010, 10:05 PM

White replacing Clarke? WTF? How could anyone say something so dumb?

White can't bat in the top 5 it's a fact.Had clarke went through this form slump five years ago he'd be heading to play shield cricket like Katich did after 05 but the thing is the batting depths of Australia is at its lowest point for years.We must not forget that Clarke is yet to turn 30 so he can have another 5 years of good cricket left in him.

Midwinter · 28-12-2010, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robinjr

White replacing Clarke? WTF? How could anyone say something so dumb?

White can't bat in the top 5 it's a fact.Had clarke went through this form slump five years ago he'd be heading to play shield cricket like Katich did after 05 but the thing is the batting depths of Australia is at its lowest point for years.We must not forget that Clarke is yet to turn 30 so he can have another 5 years of good cricket left in him.

Clarke not making any runs is part of the reason Australia's batting is at its lowest point for years.

Its time for a change , if he is good enough he will get back

View Poll Results: MICHAEL CLARKE should Australia drop/rest him for the 5th test match
Yes	13	36.11%
No	23	63.89%
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morgieb Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paradise City Posts: 8,920	Dumb thread. Yeah he hasn't been good this Ashes but he hasn't been worse than Ponting, Hughes, Smith and is still our future hope. People just seem to want a chance to bash Clarke whatever he does. __________________ 4-0 RIP Craig Walsh (Craig) 1985-2012 Proudly supporting the #2 cricketer of all time.

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NUFAN International Coach Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NSW Posts: 13,720	WTF would Clarke need a rest? He stands in the slips and can't bat out a session. Rest him for the T20, permantely.

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Burgey Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Castle Posts: 35,116	Kerry O'Keeffe made some interesting points about how Australian players deal with the moving ball. He was suggesting far less reliance on bowling machines, and that as a general rule practice wickets should be left with grass on them, and the batsmen made to face two piece balls. He wasn't talking about the established players, more the up am comers. I think it has some merit tbh. As for Clarke, nah, I wouldn't drop him. He's a class player who's playing poorly. I don't think you can say he's especially weak technically to the moving ball, given his 09 Ashes series. I would have said so in 05 for sure. He's a good player out of nick - too good to be discarded for an untried or unproven state player, IMO anyway. __________________ WWCC - Loyaulte Mi Lie "People make me happy.. not places.. people" "When a man is tired of London, he is tired of life." - Samuel Johnson "Oh my God, there's a castle! A castle!"

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flibbertyjibber Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 7,882	All depends on whether his back is causing more problems than have been said i guess. He looks woefully out of form but is a class act. I guess another thing that may come into the equation may be whether Ponting plays or not.

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MattO Cricket Spectator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St Clair, NSW, Australia Posts: 41	Clarke should be the first player dropped and please CA get rid of Clarke and the Gen-Y culture he has brought to the Australian team.

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Spikey Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: All Glory To The Nev Posts: 23,973	Michael Clarke is Gen-X bro.

28-12-2010, 10:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
robinjr School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: springfield Posts: 171	White replacing Clarke? WTF? How could anyone say something so dumb? White can't bat in the top 5 it's a fact.Had clarke went through this form slump five years ago he'd be heading to play shield cricket like Katich did after 05 but the thing is the batting depths of Australia is at its lowest point for years.We must not forget that Clarke is yet to turn 30 so he can have another 5 years of good cricket left in him.

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