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    That was a limp and spiritless showing.

    Getting out for 98 and then folding in the 2nd innings, shows this team has little grit, application and heart.

    If the game is not on their terms, like Perth or the conditions are tough, then it's just too much of an effort for them.

    Having said that, hats off to the Poms. They have been very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    That was a limp and spiritless showing.

    Getting out for 98 and then folding in the 2nd innings, shows this team has little grit, application and heart.

    If the game is not on their terms, like Perth or the conditions are tough, then it's just too much of an effort for them.

    Having said that, hats off to the Poms. They have been very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    That was a limp and spiritless showing.

    Getting out for 98 and then folding in the 2nd innings, shows this team has little grit, application and heart.

    If the game is not on their terms, like Perth or the conditions are tough, then it's just too much of an effort for them.

    Having said that, hats off to the Poms. They have been very good.
    Here's a novel idea. The opposition were better than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Here's a novel idea. The opposition were better than you.
    Eh? He acknowledged the English in his post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Here's a novel idea. The opposition were better than you.
    When this happens to Australia, it automatically means the players aren't trying or the selectors are idiots. Australia have a god-given right to be the best side in the world and if they aren't, someone has seriously ****ed up and wholesale changes need to be made. Haven't you heard?
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    Playing badly and the opposition playing well aren't mutually exclusive TBF. Two innings defeats at home would be taken badly by any country, even if it was against an ATG team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    When this happens to Australia, it automatically means the players aren't trying or the selectors are idiots. Australia have a god-given right to be the best side in the world and if they aren't, someone has seriously ****ed up and wholesale changes need to be made. Haven't you heard?
    lol they're your words drongo.

    I think I acknowledged the excellence of the Poms.

    Most reasonable would think that collapsing for 98 on the same day the opposition is 0/160 would merit some criticism on a discussion forum.

    Maybe we should run all posts through you first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Here's a novel idea. The opposition were better than you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    When this happens to Australia, it automatically means the players aren't trying or the selectors are idiots. Australia have a god-given right to be the best side in the world and if they aren't, someone has seriously ****ed up and wholesale changes need to be made. Haven't you heard?
    Rank criticism given the content of the post itself.

    And yes, history suggests there is a divine right in us being number one.

    This temporary aberration will be corrected within a year or two and we will be on our merry way once more to another 10+ years of dominance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    And yes, history suggests there is a divine right in us being number one.

    This temporary aberration will be corrected within a year or two and we will be on our merry way once more to another 10+ years of dominance.
    Going to genetically modify some robots to play then are you as the players you have aren't good enough to get anywhere near the top at present. Will take much longer than a year or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    Going to genetically modify some robots to play then are you as the players you have aren't good enough to get anywhere near the top at present. Will take much longer than a year or two.
    Will only take that long for England's inflated sense of self worth to bring them down, as it did after 2005. We'll creep up the rankings by default that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    When this happens to Australia, it automatically means the players aren't trying or the selectors are idiots. Australia have a god-given right to be the best side in the world and if they aren't, someone has seriously ****ed up and wholesale changes need to be made. Haven't you heard?
    To be fair, it does seem like the selectors are idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    Playing badly and the opposition playing well aren't mutually exclusive TBF. Two innings defeats at home would be taken badly by any country, even if it was against an ATG team.
    Dead right. Otherwise, we'd all be smiling if our lot were bowled out for sub-100 simply because the opposition bowled well. It was exactly the same at Perth when most of the England fans were spitting blood about being dismissed for 120 in the 2nd innings. Yes, Aus bowled well, but the batting was still unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardj View Post
    lol they're your words drongo.

    I think I acknowledged the excellence of the Poms.

    Most reasonable would think that collapsing for 98 on the same day the opposition is 0/160 would merit some criticism on a discussion forum.

    Maybe we should run all posts through you first.
    Even though Furball quoted your post and I then quoted his, I was just venting in general rather than attacking your post specifically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by four_or_six View Post
    To be fair, it does seem like the selectors are idiots.
    Quite. They make ours look look, well, competent.

    Persisting (as seems likely with no other specialist bats in the XII) with Smith @ #6 is Quixotic and then retention of Beer over Hauritz (playing on his own track, taking wickets, scoring runs, etc) defies logic. It compounds the error of selecting Beer initially because (presumably) they won't say mea culpa and admit they ****ed up.
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