Michael "Frosty" Beer

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The funny thing is, he probably would've been selected for Victoria last season had Australian Cricket not put pressure on them to pick Jon Holland.

That was another interesting thing to come out of this selection - most people knows that it happens but it's generally not admitted

 

[Craig]

Maybe but its hard to get away from the fact that a lot of people have seen him play many times and he hasnt exactly been selected for a lot of FC cricket. Those that have been watching him for years have not been picking him for FC cricket and he hasnt done anything to prove them wrong.

Picking an unproven club cricketer that has never done anything at the level below Tests is strange. Im loving it from an Englishmans POV

What is the under/over on his Test career? Ill set the line at 2 Tests.

If he plays, one Test for mine.

 

[Bun]

Australian cricket is a rudderless ship now. People comparing this team to the one which Allan Border inherited forget the fact that back then Allan was new, fresh and most importantly him and the guys around him had a vision, a vision which was shared and nurtured so brilliantly that it saw Australia dominate World cricket for the next two decades. There was a conscious effort to shed the vestiges of past, earmark a core of 5-6 and give them as much support as possible and thereby ensure a stable team developed around these guys.

However, at the moment, I can't see any such long term vision governing the thoughts of the men at the helm now. They have a captain who is fading quite rapidly, and a bunch of reluctant, insecure chaps around him. Australia really needs to go in for a massive overhaul if they indeed want to harbour thoughts of being at the top again. They need to start right at the top. Ponting must go as a captain. He has had his chances and has shown that without the services of the legends, he is no good as a leader. He can go back and concentrate on his batting, which I believe will be priceless if he manages to find a second wind. At the moment his plate is overflowing with rotten stuff.

 

[Oscillatingmind]

I'm suprised the Beer selection actually shocked me after the X one.

 

[Adamc]

As you know, the key to victory is the element of surprise. Surprise!

 

[stephen]

As you know, the key to victory is the element of surprise. Surprise!

In the game of cricket you can never let your opponent see your players.

 

[joels344]

cricket with balls Australia pick up a random player from bus stop, Michael Beer picked for the WACA - join sehwagology

Hilarious!

 

[Spark]

cricket with balls Australia pick up a random player from bus stop, Michael Beer picked for the WACA - join sehwagology

Haha, I love that blog. I disagree with the vast majority of his cricket views to varying degrees but **** that guy is funny.

 

[JBMAC]

Maybe but its hard to get away from the fact that a lot of people have seen him play many times and he hasnt exactly been selected for a lot of FC cricket. Those that have been watching him for years have not been picking him for FC cricket and he hasnt done anything to prove them wrong.

Picking an unproven club cricketer that has never done anything at the level below Tests is strange. Im loving it from an Englishmans POV

What is the under/over on his Test career? Ill set the line at 2 Tests.

Australian cricket is a rudderless ship now. People comparing this team to the one which Allan Border inherited forget the fact that back then Allan was new, fresh and most importantly him and the guys around him had a vision, a vision which was shared and nurtured so brilliantly that it saw Australia dominate World cricket for the next two decades. There was a conscious effort to shed the vestiges of past, earmark a core of 5-6 and give them as much support as possible and thereby ensure a stable team developed around these guys.

However, at the moment, I can't see any such long term vision governing the thoughts of the men at the helm now. They have a captain who is fading quite rapidly, and a bunch of reluctant, insecure chaps around him. Australia really needs to go in for a massive overhaul if they indeed want to harbour thoughts of being at the top again. They need to start right at the top. Ponting must go as a captain. He has had his chances and has shown that without the services of the legends, he is no good as a leader. He can go back and concentrate on his batting, which I believe will be priceless if he manages to find a second wind. At the moment his plate is overflowing with rotten stuff.

Just a quick reminder about the aussie selectors......Do you remember "Peter Who" ?

 

[vicleggie]

Australian cricket is a rudderless ship now. People comparing this team to the one which Allan Border inherited forget the fact that back then Allan was new, fresh and most importantly him and the guys around him had a vision, a vision which was shared and nurtured so brilliantly that it saw Australia dominate World cricket for the next two decades. There was a conscious effort to shed the vestiges of past, earmark a core of 5-6 and give them as much support as possible and thereby ensure a stable team developed around these guys.

However, at the moment, I can't see any such long term vision governing the thoughts of the men at the helm now. They have a captain who is fading quite rapidly, and a bunch of reluctant, insecure chaps around him. Australia really needs to go in for a massive overhaul if they indeed want to harbour thoughts of being at the top again. They need to start right at the top. Ponting must go as a captain. He has had his chances and has shown that without the services of the legends, he is no good as a leader. He can go back and concentrate on his batting, which I believe will be priceless if he manages to find a second wind. At the moment his plate is overflowing with rotten stuff.

aye. this is absolutely true. when you get past the "he should be picked" or "drop him" talk, its clear that there is no team vision, unity, strucutre or planning.

i dont think ive seen a more pitiful disharmonious (is that a word?) team.
7 insecure blokes in the 11, no vision, standing for nothing.

ponting , hildichh, neilsen seriously need to go. they are sorry visionless, stubborn expletives. ponting is a great batsman, but it takes far more than that to be a captain. he just does not have what it takes. hes not a leader of men, far from it.

any win they get in this series is purely a fluke, or a 'quick fix' type thing. its been looking this way for a couple of year, since probably the SA series in aus. no harmony in the team, it was only getting by on raw talents like jonson or great batsmanship by ponting.

for this team to be successful or on any type of path of long term success, neilsen ponting hildich n co need to GO.
a completely new selection panel and routine needs to be set up, where we try and pick the 6 best batsman, 4 best bowlers, and best keeper in the country, and go from there.

it would look something like this

phil hughes
opener/hussey (Would be beneficial if he could open, as no other opener is screaming out, and watto is a middle order)
ponting (for now he is still among the best)
watson
clarke
khawaja
haddin
okeefe
harris
jonson (if he fixes it)
-any quickie who starts performing regularly.

ponting cannot be captain. clarke or haddin captain.
when ponting goes, maybe bring whole lineup up and smith at 6? if he proves he can average 40.

 

[Rant0r]

Funny how we once had the system the world envied. The strong domestic system, the cricket academy, the high performance centre, past greats becoming great coaches, many junior and A tours, which at the moment is producing sweet **** all really

 

[Spark]

Nah it's producing good stuff. But it's not much good if it doesn't get picked.

Having a strong system doesn't automatically make you permanent #1.

 

[Rant0r]

I never said it does, but they throw a lot of money into it

 

[morgieb]

Our system's fine. It's just that the Australian selectors are dumb ****s and our side's a bit meh right now.

 

[Prince EWS]

Nah it's producing good stuff. But it's not much good if it doesn't get picked.

While the selection policy has been terrible, I definitely think it's a bit of a cop out to just overlook the actual player ability problems that do indeed exist in some areas and blame them on selection.

The system definitely hasn't been producing good spinners, and a whole generation of talented batsmen have failed to kick on for various reasons (barring Watson and Clarke who were fast-tracked in such a way that they were essentially removed from the domestic system). Those are definitely failures of the system - be they temporary or otherwise.

 

[Son Of Coco]

As a rule Australia has always preferred spinners who take the ball away from right handers.

That's why I'm backing myself for Melbourne.

Both Doherty and Beer took the ball away from Hauritz, so the selectors might be onto something here.

 

[Rant0r]

Best spinners in the world at the moment take the ball into the right handed batsmen, are we missing something ?

 

[Son Of Coco]

Australian cricket is a rudderless ship now. People comparing this team to the one which Allan Border inherited forget the fact that back then Allan was new, fresh and most importantly him and the guys around him had a vision, a vision which was shared and nurtured so brilliantly that it saw Australia dominate World cricket for the next two decades. There was a conscious effort to shed the vestiges of past, earmark a core of 5-6 and give them as much support as possible and thereby ensure a stable team developed around these guys.

Yeah, would agree with this. They reacted back in the 80's by giving Boon a chance the next summer. Pretty much every summer after that one or two new guys were given a go and by 1989 they had the core of what was going to be a very good team (S.Waugh, Hughes, M.Taylor, Healy, McDermott etc).

In contrast, these selectors have seemingly no idea where to start when it comes to ear-marking talent for the future. It's become very random, and it appears to be based on the idea that you either have to have been playing state cricket for 10 years while we've been going well, or be someone nobody has ever heard of before.

 

[Bun]

Nah it's producing good stuff. But it's not much good if it doesn't get picked.

Having a strong system doesn't automatically make you permanent #1.

Our system's fine. It's just that the Australian selectors are dumb ****s and our side's a bit meh right now.

Haha the eternal refuge of the optimist.. the entire system is pristine perfect except for the selectors

 

[Rant0r]

I suppose the system falls down if it's run by morons