*Official* First Test at the Gabba - Page 57

Prince EWS · 22-11-2010, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Howe_zat

If they were going to drop Hussey then they would have left him out of the squad.

He meant for the second Test.

NUFAN · 22-11-2010, 01:01 AM

Finding it hard to multi quote on the iPhone but responding to a few posts..

Henan Khawaja is a great selection and he should bat at 4 to not disrupt the lineup. Hopefully he does well to keep his spot.

No shot that the selectors don't rate Smith as a top 6 option, I've been saying it all along that he isn't good enough yet and is only getting a look in cause he has potential with the ball.

Howe_zat · 22-11-2010, 01:01 AM

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He meant for the second Test.

My mistake. Christ, I'm getting so much wrong this morning. I ought to go back to bed.

Top_Cat · 22-11-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Howe_zat

I'm less than convinced by the argument that you should never debut a player in the Ashes.

I dunno, there's a convincing case against it.

Howe_zat · 22-11-2010, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Top_Cat

I dunno, there's a convincing case against it.

Now you're just being unfair.

We don't talk about that period of England selection policy...

Top_Cat · 22-11-2010, 01:15 AM

Couple of Aussies in there, to be fair.

BoyBrumby · 22-11-2010, 01:16 AM

Mildly surprised at Khawaja's (potential) call up given how badly he muffed his rehersal. Hughes IMHO; made runs, at least as good FC record, etc.

Only thing Khawaja seems to have over him is not being a specialist opener.

Top_Cat · 22-11-2010, 01:21 AM

Even then, opened at under-age level.

That and Usman's made runs in every other game he's played.

morgieb · 22-11-2010, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Mildly surprised at Khawaja's (potential) call up given how badly he muffed his rehersal. Hughes IMHO; made runs, at least as good FC record, etc.

Only thing Khawaja seems to have over him is not being a specialist opener.

Better recent form, isn't as flawed technique wise ala Hughes.

Plus, Watson and Katich has been fine for us - why would we want to disrupt that?

Spark · 22-11-2010, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Howe_zat

Khawaja's call-up is pretty damning for Smith, they clearly don't rate him as a batsman.

Not so sure about that tbh. It's not exactly taxing to call up a spare batsman and I don't think anyone will be too offended by the implication that Khawaja is a better specialist bat than Smith.

Howe_zat · 22-11-2010, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Spark

Not so sure about that tbh. It's not exactly taxing to call up a spare batsman and I don't think anyone will be too offended by the implication that Khawaja is a better specialist bat than Smith.

It just shows how far off playing he is. He was picked behind Doherty as a spinner, which is not so bad as he could feasibly play in the top six, but Khawaja's call-up shows that Smith is behind him in the order too. Tie in North as well and it seems he has very little chance of an Ashes test.

GotSpin · 22-11-2010, 01:48 AM

If Khawaja does well and one of North/Hussey fails, they could conceivably be pushed out which is only a good thing in an otherwise dire situation.

He may have failed in the tour match, but he's succeeded in almost every other shield game.

Ruckus · 22-11-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Got_Spin

If Khawaja does well and one of North/Hussey fails, they could conceivably be pushed out which is only a good thing in an otherwise dire situation.

He may have failed in the tour match, but he's succeeded in almost every other shield game.

Yeh but unfortunately at this stage it looks as though Khawaja might ironically end up replacing one of our top batsmen in Clarke, rather than Hussey or North who probably should of been replaced.

A bonus though is that hopefully Khawaja will be be taken along as part of the squad even beyond the Gabba test as a backup for Clarke (because I'm sure Clarke's problem won't resolve completely for the duration of the Ashes). Therefore if Hussey or North fail, he will be right there for selection (as opposed to e.g. Ferguson).

GotSpin · 22-11-2010, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DeusEx

Yeh but unfortunately at this stage it looks as though Khawaja might ironically end up replacing one of our top batsmen in Clarke, rather than Hussey or North who probably should of been replaced.

A bonus though is that hopefully Khawaja will be be taken along as part of the squad even beyond the Gabba test as a backup for Clarke (because I'm sure Clarke's problem won't resolve completely for the duration of the Ashes). Therefore if Hussey or North fail, he will be right there for selection (as opposed to e.g. Ferguson).

Yeah I've obviously, with others, been calling for Khawaja to replace the hopeless two. However, as long as we can get him in the team, it's somewhat of a good thing. If he performs, and Hussey/North fail, he could potentially take the no.5 or 6 position when Clarke comes back.

NUFAN · 22-11-2010, 02:04 AM

I'm looking forward to nein's new technology. The score is going to be on the bottom of the screen and the batsmans scores up the entire time. Also bowling speeds from a bowlers last 5 overs.

Looks good tbh I could get used to it.

22-11-2010, 01:16 AM	#847 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,629	Mildly surprised at Khawaja's (potential) call up given how badly he muffed his rehersal. Hughes IMHO; made runs, at least as good FC record, etc. Only thing Khawaja seems to have over him is not being a specialist opener. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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22-11-2010, 01:01 AM	#842 (permalink)
NUFAN International Coach Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NSW Posts: 13,742	Finding it hard to multi quote on the iPhone but responding to a few posts.. Henan Khawaja is a great selection and he should bat at 4 to not disrupt the lineup. Hopefully he does well to keep his spot. No shot that the selectors don't rate Smith as a top 6 option, I've been saying it all along that he isn't good enough yet and is only getting a look in cause he has potential with the ball.

22-11-2010, 01:15 AM	#846 (permalink)
Top_Cat Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 21,186	Couple of Aussies in there, to be fair.

22-11-2010, 01:21 AM	#848 (permalink)
Top_Cat Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 21,186	Even then, opened at under-age level. That and Usman's made runs in every other game he's played.

22-11-2010, 02:04 AM	#855 (permalink)
NUFAN International Coach Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NSW Posts: 13,742	I'm looking forward to nein's new technology. The score is going to be on the bottom of the screen and the batsmans scores up the entire time. Also bowling speeds from a bowlers last 5 overs. Looks good tbh I could get used to it.

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