Go Back   Cricket Web > Archived Forums > Archived Forums > Ashes 2010-2011



Finding Seams on Apples - Order Your Copy!


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 30-11-2010, 01:25 AM   #6031 (permalink)
Request Your Custom Title Now!
 
Jono's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Virat Kohli
Posts: 47,531
Lol at people trying to find psychological wins from a match like this.

Just move on to the second test fellas.
Jono is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 01:31 AM   #6032 (permalink)
Request Your Custom Title Now!
 
Jono's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Virat Kohli
Posts: 47,531
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
The test deserved better.
No it didn't tbf
Jono is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 01:32 AM   #6033 (permalink)
Cricketer Of The Year
 
flibbertyjibber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: England
Posts: 7,943
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono View Post
Lol at people trying to find psychological wins from a match like this.

Just move on to the second test fellas.
If Australia had been 100-4 not 100-1 then there may have been some advantage.As it is Katich can put his dismissal down to tired body and mind after 2 days in the field and move on.
flibbertyjibber is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 01:34 AM   #6034 (permalink)
Request Your Custom Title Now!
 
Jono's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Virat Kohli
Posts: 47,531
That's my point though. It was a **** pitch (lol @ Bill Lawry saying it was the perfect pitch on Day 4, such a joke of a commentator) and people trying to justify why their team was better on a road is one of the more meaningless tasks in recent times.
Jono is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 01:58 AM   #6035 (permalink)
International Coach
 
Marcuss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Above you
Posts: 13,942
Quote:
Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
Haha this is ridiculous.

Let's face it lads. England are so much better than Australia that the only way Australia can come close to them is if England throw all of their wickets away and if the umpires are blatant cheats.
Which is why I've said we only threw away 2/3 wickets.
Seriously reply to what I say, not what you want me to be saying.
__________________
Appreciate Swanneh For The Genius He Is.
Bore off, seriously.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Spin View Post
Think Hilfenhaus has the edge on Anderson
Quote:
Originally Posted by Son Of Coco View Post
Prior's just a wicketkeeping Bell though...plunders when anyone decent disappears.
Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie View Post
Bell is useless
The quotes may, or may not, read differently in context
Marcuss is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 02:02 AM   #6036 (permalink)
International Coach
 
Marcuss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Above you
Posts: 13,942
Quote:
Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
When a dismissal occurs, there's generally two reasons.

1. You've made a bad decision.
2. You've made the right decision, but executed it poorly.

Very occasionally, there is the third: you did everything right, but the ball was too good.

Trott was the second case. For mine, that's not a loose shot. Loose shot refers to something like Strauss', which was a bad decision.
Yeah, I said it was a bad shot/decent ball and neither a woeful **** or a magic ball. The drive was loose though, was a bad shot to a ball pretty similar to the one he'd just faced.
Marcuss is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 06:08 AM   #6037 (permalink)
International Coach
 
Ikki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Death Queen Island
Posts: 12,048
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono View Post
That's my point though. It was a **** pitch (lol @ Bill Lawry saying it was the perfect pitch on Day 4, such a joke of a commentator) and people trying to justify why their team was better on a road is one of the more meaningless tasks in recent times.
Well said. What a **** pitch.
__________________
I think there'll sooner be another Bradman than another Warne. - Gidgeon Haigh

[Warne is] the greatest bowler ever produced in this entire world - Muttiah Muralidaran

[Warne is] the greatest bowler of all time - Glenn McGrath


In my opinion Shane Warne is the greatest cricketer who's ever lived - Ian Botham

Warne is the greatest cricketer to pick up a ball ever.
And is the greatest bowler I have ever laid eyes on. - Brian Lara
Ikki is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 06:35 AM   #6038 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: India
Posts: 4,456
Quote:
Originally Posted by zaremba View Post
I've just seen a nice clip of the esteemed Australian captain telling Aleem Dar "that's ****ing weak umpiring, Aleem, that's ****ing weak umpiring"
Link ?
Blaze 18 is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 07:01 AM   #6039 (permalink)
Cricketer Of The Year
 
zaremba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: chez les Ashes
Posts: 8,730
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaze 18 View Post
Link ?
Don't know if it's on the internet. They showed it on the Sky Sports highlights. Bleeped out the word ****ing.
zaremba is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 07:18 AM   #6040 (permalink)
Eternal Optimist
 
GIMH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me?
Posts: 43,622
I saw that last night as well.
__________________
Watch out, for as soon as it pleases them they’ll send you out to protect their gold in wars whose weapons, rapidly developed by servile scientists, will become more and more deadly until they can with a flick of the finger tear a million of you to pieces

RIP Craigos. A true CW legend. You will be missed.
GIMH is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 08:53 AM   #6041 (permalink)
Cricketer Of The Year
 
zaremba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: chez les Ashes
Posts: 8,730
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono View Post
Lol at people trying to find psychological wins from a match like this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono View Post
It was a **** pitch... and people trying to justify why their team was better on a road is one of the more meaningless tasks in recent times.
You're spot on. Neither of these teams can possibly recieve any psychological boost or blow by reason of the fact that England avoided likely defeat at Australia's favourite ground, scoring 517-1, with their top 3 all getting big runs, none of the main Aussie bowlers taking a single wicket in 2 days despite having a big lead and the ability to set attacking fields, and their lethal hard-man fast bowler looking like the only member of the Village People who wouldn't get in the village cricket team.

And more importantly, you're quite right that it's a mystery why anyone would want to offer opinions about such matters in the "First Test at the Gabba" thread.

Because all that matters is that the pitch flattened out a bit and (wow!) the Kookaburra doesn't do much after the shine wears off.

Last edited by zaremba; 30-11-2010 at 08:55 AM.
zaremba is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 09:16 AM   #6042 (permalink)
Eternal Optimist
 
GIMH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me?
Posts: 43,622
It must suck to come into a thread and try and own everyone and end up getting owned yourself
GIMH is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 11:44 AM   #6043 (permalink)
Englishman
 
BoyBrumby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Doing the stance
Posts: 42,645
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono View Post
No it didn't tbf
Was pretty decent IMHO; first two days especially. Pitch rather killed it from day 4 onwards, but it was never a draw-draw until lunch on day 5 really.
__________________
- As featured in The Independent.

"This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers."
- Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads
BoyBrumby is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 11:55 AM   #6044 (permalink)
International Coach
 
tooextracool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: not far away from you
Posts: 14,304
Quote:
Originally Posted by zaremba View Post
You're spot on. Neither of these teams can possibly recieve any psychological boost or blow by reason of the fact that England avoided likely defeat at Australia's favourite ground, scoring 517-1, with their top 3 all getting big runs, none of the main Aussie bowlers taking a single wicket in 2 days despite having a big lead and the ability to set attacking fields, and their lethal hard-man fast bowler looking like the only member of the Village People who wouldn't get in the village cricket team.

And more importantly, you're quite right that it's a mystery why anyone would want to offer opinions about such matters in the "First Test at the Gabba" thread.
Not sure I'm with you on this. The whole 'psychological boost' idea seems to me to be overrated. If anything its likely to inflate egos and in England's case possibly give them a sense of complacency. In Australia's case it may just give them the kind of kick up the backside that they might respond well to.

Look I'd like to think that England is a confidence team, but lets face it. Look at all our performances over the past year and a half and you'll notice a trend that we tend to perform better with our backs to the wall than when we go in with a heightened sense of expectation. We went into this test match with Australia in disarray and our entire batting and bowling with plenty of form under their belt and proceeded to collapse to 260 against some **** bowling. And when people thought we barely had a hope in hell we scored 517/1. Heck go back to SA series, at centurion when things seemed easy and a draw seemed inevitable we proceeded to collapse and nearly throw away the first test. Then when we went into the 2nd test at Durban as clear underdogs, we ended up confounding the bookies by winning by the not so significant margin of an innings and 99 runs.And yet when everyone thought we had the series in the bag, we proceeded to bat like nitwits and lose by an innings.

Do you see a pattern here? Fact of the matter is that as a team we respond to being under the cosh, we thrive in difficult situations and we prefer to be underdogs than go in as favorites. If you think batting like complete morons against a hopeless attack in the first innings isn't a cause for concern, or that only one bowler turned up then go right ahead and talk up how we have the 'mental' edge based on a day and a half's worth of cricket.
__________________
Tendulkar = the most overated player EVER!!
Beckham = the most overated footballer EVER!!
Vassell = the biggest disgrace since rikki clarke!!
tooextracool is offline  
Old 30-11-2010, 12:38 PM   #6045 (permalink)
International Coach
 
Howe_zat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Top floor, bottom buzzer
Posts: 13,883
I'd agree that this "psycological boost" and "moral voctory" natter is by and large bull****. Both sides had personal wins and losses.

However, Australia will come out of this Test with more worries than England. Their bowling has some serious problems and it is rightly Australia, not England, that are considering serious changes to their side.
__________________
Maybe we wouldn't be so quick to fill buckets with filth if we knew they had a soul. Or maybe that's what they're into. Ain't no way to get inside a bucket's mind.
Howe_zat is offline  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Test cricket under lights? vcs Cricket Chat 72 05-03-2010 06:12 PM
**Official** England in New Zealand James Cricket Chat 6035 17-04-2008 01:38 PM
CW XI Test History Mr Mxyzptlk Statistics and Records 36 29-11-2007 05:34 AM
Greatest west indian fast bowler of all time? superwills Cricket Chat 76 21-09-2007 03:55 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:15 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright ©2001 - 2011, Cricket Web