Biggest disapointment of the 2009 Ashes?

Pizzorno · 23-08-2009, 01:11 PM

Whether it be a player or a passage of play or whatever, what is your biggest disapointment of the series just gone?

Personally for me it's Peter Siddle. A lot of the crims were talking him up as the next big thing yet apart from the first innings at Headingley he did next to nothing. Same goes for Mitchell Johnson too.

From an England perspective Bopara was a shambles. I thought he would have made at least one score in the series but he was just woefully out of his depteh throughout.

PhoenixFire · 23-08-2009, 01:13 PM

Pietersen.

Daryl Harper · 23-08-2009, 01:20 PM

The umpiring. But then again nothing else ever had a chance.

The fact that technology will finally only come in full time a couple of months AFTER this series, is the typical type of joke that is the ICC who manage to yet again get it wrong.

zaremba · 23-08-2009, 01:21 PM

Bopara, Freddie (post Lord's), KP, Anderson (mostly), the umpiring.

BoyBrumby · 23-08-2009, 01:23 PM

Bopara's performances were poor, but I'd have him down as only mildly disappointing because my hopes weren't too high anyway.

Biggest disappointment was probably Hughes for my money, who went from early-season century machine to dropped in three test innings.

England have a lot of players who were disappointing apart from one or two performances: Anderson (Lords), Cook (Lords), Flintoff (Lords), Collingwood (Cardiff & Lords) & Swann (Lords & The Oval).

Jamee999 · 23-08-2009, 01:23 PM

Kpp

Pigeon · 23-08-2009, 01:23 PM

Flintoff. Surely after Lord's nobody expected him to go out on such a whimper.

TT Boy · 23-08-2009, 01:26 PM

Flintoff and Johnson. Johnson with the bat was a non-event.

Didn't expect anything from Bopara and the form of Cook and Colly wasn't surprising.

oitoitoi · 23-08-2009, 01:34 PM

Above everything else the umpiring, it was truly abysmal, I'm not a fan of the referral system but it's got to be better than this, at times decisions just seemed a total lottery.

Johnson was a epicly giant disappointment, saw glimpses of what he can do at Headingley but otherwise was all over the shop and did more harm than good.

Hughes almost forgotten among the wreckage, was talked up as the next big thing with the runs to prove it but was sorted out pretty quickly.

Siddle, was so accurate in SA but was inconsistent over here.

Swann, he did well when he got a turning surface, but was otherwise pretty innocuous, I was expecting a much more solid performance from him.

Anderson, had the chance to prove that he'd really stepped up to the next level but didn't take it apart from one innnings at Lords, remains inconsistent.

Bopara, thought he would do ok this series, maybe average 40, it wasn't that he failed that was so dissappointing it was the manner in which he did so.

The crowds booing, awful to see, gives the occasion such a sour taste.

The oval pitch was bit dissappointing, was hoping for a real slugfest that went to the last day, a result on that kind of surface somehow feels a little contrived.

Cardiff getting a test, was soulless and dull as expected, a poor way to start the series, was rescued by some exciting cricket.

aussie · 23-08-2009, 01:51 PM

Johnson's performance & an Ashes test not coming to Manchester.

slippy · 23-08-2009, 01:57 PM

Brett Lee not playing in the test series.

Ikki · 23-08-2009, 02:11 PM

In general, the fact that we seemed to palm off responsibility in the most dire of situations. The two innings where we lost wickets while I winked, it seemed to me as if the players didn't really value their wickets. They didn't have that old-school attitude towards staying in. It almost seemed as if they were under the impression that the next guy would do his job and it'd be ok.

Scaly piscine · 23-08-2009, 02:38 PM

The ECB selling out by staging the first Test at a joke ground

huxleypig · 23-08-2009, 02:47 PM

Brett Lee not playing any part was a disappointment for me. I was looking forward to seeing him and he was looking great till he got that side strain just before Cardiff. I reckon he could've still done something in the last 2 tests though.

Freddie not doing much in the last test. Would've been a nice end to his career to have got amongst the wickets. Run out was class though!

Gotta say KP. Biggest let down of all.

Jakester1288 · 23-08-2009, 03:02 PM

Losing.

23-08-2009, 01:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
Pizzorno State Regular Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: St.Helens Posts: 937	Biggest disapointment of the 2009 Ashes? Whether it be a player or a passage of play or whatever, what is your biggest disapointment of the series just gone? Personally for me it's Peter Siddle. A lot of the crims were talking him up as the next big thing yet apart from the first innings at Headingley he did next to nothing. Same goes for Mitchell Johnson too. From an England perspective Bopara was a shambles. I thought he would have made at least one score in the series but he was just woefully out of his depteh throughout. __________________ In affectionate remembrance of Australian cricket, which died at the Oval on 23rd August 2009. Deeply lamented by a large circle of criminals and bar staff. RIP.

23-08-2009, 01:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,645	Bopara's performances were poor, but I'd have him down as only mildly disappointing because my hopes weren't too high anyway. Biggest disappointment was probably Hughes for my money, who went from early-season century machine to dropped in three test innings. England have a lot of players who were disappointing apart from one or two performances: Anderson (Lords), Cook (Lords), Flintoff (Lords), Collingwood (Cardiff & Lords) & Swann (Lords & The Oval). __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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Ikki International Coach Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Death Queen Island Posts: 12,048	In general, the fact that we seemed to palm off responsibility in the most dire of situations. The two innings where we lost wickets while I winked, it seemed to me as if the players didn't really value their wickets. They didn't have that old-school attitude towards staying in. It almost seemed as if they were under the impression that the next guy would do his job and it'd be ok. __________________ I think there'll sooner be another Bradman than another Warne. - Gidgeon Haigh [Warne is] the greatest bowler ever produced in this entire world - Muttiah Muralidaran [Warne is] the greatest bowler of all time - Glenn McGrath In my opinion Shane Warne is the greatest cricketer who's ever lived - Ian Botham Warne is the greatest cricketer to pick up a ball ever. And is the greatest bowler I have ever laid eyes on. - Brian Lara

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23-08-2009, 01:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Daryl Harper School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Wimbledon Posts: 131	The umpiring. But then again nothing else ever had a chance. The fact that technology will finally only come in full time a couple of months AFTER this series, is the typical type of joke that is the ICC who manage to yet again get it wrong.

23-08-2009, 01:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
zaremba Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: chez les Ashes Posts: 8,730	Bopara, Freddie (post Lord's), KP, Anderson (mostly), the umpiring.

23-08-2009, 01:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
Pigeon Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brigida Posts: 751	Flintoff. Surely after Lord's nobody expected him to go out on such a whimper.

23-08-2009, 01:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
TT Boy Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: . Posts: 16,321	Flintoff and Johnson. Johnson with the bat was a non-event. Didn't expect anything from Bopara and the form of Cook and Colly wasn't surprising.

23-08-2009, 01:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
oitoitoi State Vice-Captain Join Date: May 2008 Location: England (support India) Posts: 1,404	Above everything else the umpiring, it was truly abysmal, I'm not a fan of the referral system but it's got to be better than this, at times decisions just seemed a total lottery. Johnson was a epicly giant disappointment, saw glimpses of what he can do at Headingley but otherwise was all over the shop and did more harm than good. Hughes almost forgotten among the wreckage, was talked up as the next big thing with the runs to prove it but was sorted out pretty quickly. Siddle, was so accurate in SA but was inconsistent over here. Swann, he did well when he got a turning surface, but was otherwise pretty innocuous, I was expecting a much more solid performance from him. Anderson, had the chance to prove that he'd really stepped up to the next level but didn't take it apart from one innnings at Lords, remains inconsistent. Bopara, thought he would do ok this series, maybe average 40, it wasn't that he failed that was so dissappointing it was the manner in which he did so. The crowds booing, awful to see, gives the occasion such a sour taste. The oval pitch was bit dissappointing, was hoping for a real slugfest that went to the last day, a result on that kind of surface somehow feels a little contrived. Cardiff getting a test, was soulless and dull as expected, a poor way to start the series, was rescued by some exciting cricket.

23-08-2009, 01:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
aussie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cricket Posts: 16,845	Johnson's performance & an Ashes test not coming to Manchester.

23-08-2009, 01:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
slippy School Boy/Girl Cricketer Join Date: May 2009 Location: london Posts: 97	Brett Lee not playing in the test series.

23-08-2009, 02:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
huxleypig Cricket Spectator Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Redditch Posts: 8	Brett Lee not playing any part was a disappointment for me. I was looking forward to seeing him and he was looking great till he got that side strain just before Cardiff. I reckon he could've still done something in the last 2 tests though. Freddie not doing much in the last test. Would've been a nice end to his career to have got amongst the wickets. Run out was class though! Gotta say KP. Biggest let down of all.

23-08-2009, 03:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jakester1288 International Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Afghanistan Posts: 3,533	Losing.

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