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Aussies - pick your attack for The Oval

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Haha, indeed. We were making our selections blind though, tbf. The selectors saw the pitch and still missed a trick.
 

aussie

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Dont think you can blame the selectors for not playing Haurtiz. To pick Hauritz you had to be sure Watson could be depended on to bowl & although his pace looked good yesterday - he wasn't exaclty accurate.

Given the pitch, surely reverse swing will have a factor. Thus if anyone could have been dropped it was Clark for Lee. Since surely Lee @ 90mph with the old ball reversing >>>>>>Haurtiz aiming to the rough patches.
 

Matt79

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Dont think you can blame the selectors for not playing Haurtiz. To pick Hauritz you had to be sure Watson could be depended on to bowl & although his pace looked good yesterday - he wasn't exaclty accurate.

Given the pitch, surely reverse swing will have a factor. Thus if anyone could have been dropped it was Clark for Lee. Since surely Lee @ 90mph with the old ball reversing >>>>>>Haurtiz aiming to the rough patches.
I blame you entirely for this current situation Aussie. You've been carrying on about a four-seamer attack since the start, and the selectors paid attention to you and now we don't have a specialist spinner on what is fast turning into a raging turner of a wicket. :ph34r:
 

aussie

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Haa, ENG could still have a second innings collapse. The ball is swinging, ENGs batting aint exactly rock solid...
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Dont think you can blame the selectors for not playing Haurtiz. To pick Hauritz you had to be sure Watson could be depended on to bowl & although his pace looked good yesterday - he wasn't exaclty accurate.

Given the pitch, surely reverse swing will have a factor. Thus if anyone could have been dropped it was Clark for Lee. Since surely Lee @ 90mph with the old ball reversing >>>>>>Haurtiz aiming to the rough patches.
Who the **** else could you possibly blame but the selectors? ridiculous to not pick a spinner on this deck, what are they paid for?
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
Michael Clarke to take more wickets than Stuart this match. :ph34r:
This track is tailor made for him. His 6/9 could be up for repeating if he is given a bowl but I'd reckon that he is still not 100% fit from his injury scare earlier in the series.
 

aussie

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Who the **** else could you possibly blame but the selectors? ridiculous to not pick a spinner on this deck, what are they paid for?
Camn down, the game in over yet. ENG could still collapse giving AUS under 350 to win, & Swann could be effective on the 5th day like Giles @ OT 05. A classic is going on ATM.
 

GIMH

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Yeah, believe me I am more than calm. I'd imagine I would be less so was Hauritz playing.
 

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The thing is, you look at how North has bowled and wonder just how much of an improvement Hauritz would actually have been. Would have got a trundle earlier in the first innings though, might have made a difference. Then again, might not have.

Picking Hauritz was obviously the right decision in hindsight, but does anyone really feel that he would have ripped through England and knocked them over for considerably less than 330 in the first innings? With the way the game's gone I don't think it's made a massive difference so far. If Oz struggle to clean up tomorrow then that might change.
 

aussie

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Yeah, believe me I am more than calm. I'd imagine I would be less so was Hauritz playing.
Surely on this abrasive pitch reverse swing will soon come into play as the AUS selectors & Ponting where discussing before this test?. Thus as i've mentioned before Lee @ 90mph with the old ball reversing >>>>>>Haurtiz aiming to the rough patches.

Buit even so given ENGs lame middle-order Hauritz would have definately caused problems also.
 

zaremba

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as i've mentioned before Lee @ 90mph with the old ball reversing >>>>>>Haurtiz aiming to the rough patches.
But it's not a question of rough patches though mate. The pitch is genuinely turning.

Anyhow a bit surprised that Clark hasn't bowled in the 2nd innings. I'd have thought he'd enjoy bowling here: get it straight, get a bit of movement, get a bit of uneven bounce, keep the pressure on, don't give away runs.
 

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But it's not a question of rough patches though mate. The pitch is genuinely turning.

Anyhow a bit surprised that Clark hasn't bowled in the 2nd innings. I'd have thought he'd enjoy bowling here: get it straight, get a bit of movement, get a bit of uneven bounce, keep the pressure on, don't give away runs.
Yeah, I think everyone's kinda gone for the fallacy of "Hauritz should have played ahead of Clark, therefore Clark is now useless on this pitch."

Australia do have plenty of options though. North, Kat and Clarke can all do a job the way the pitch is playing, Hilfenhaus and Siddle took wickets in the first innings and Johnson's the man. Someone's going to miss out on bowling much, and it was Clark.
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah, I think everyone's kinda gone for the fallacy of "Hauritz should have played ahead of Clark, therefore Clark is now useless on this pitch."

Australia do have plenty of options though. North, Kat and Clarke can all do a job the way the pitch is playing, Hilfenhaus and Siddle took wickets in the first innings and Johnson's the man. Someone's going to miss out on bowling much, and it was Clark.
Yeah you're right. But all the same Clark ought to be a captain's dream. Almost anyone else might let you down and let the opposition get some easy runs but Clark wouldn't. And he's as likely to take wickets as anyone on this pitch. If I was Ponting I'd have been demanding him in the team, and would be bowling him at critical moments.
 

pup11

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Would have been great had we had Crayfish in the team, would have destroyed the English on this deck.
 

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