'No Doctoring' of the pitch at the Oval - Page 4

GIMH · 22-08-2009, 04:30 AM

Just to clarify - I don't think there is anything wrong with saying the toss has affected the match. More that it's a bit pointless to go into finer details.

Lillian Thomson · 22-08-2009, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

What a pointless argument. Might as well argue that if England had picked me I'd have taken 7-4. Nobody ****ing knows so what is the point in stating such things as facts?

It's obviously not facts, just speculation. If you think it's pointless don't join in, simple.

GIMH · 22-08-2009, 04:35 AM

Haha, please tell me I am not the only one to see the irony in your post

Lillian Thomson · 22-08-2009, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

Haha, please tell me I am not the only one to see the irony in your post

I think you might be........

GIMH · 22-08-2009, 04:54 AM

Oh please, every 3rd cricket thread you are in there with a snide comment about the thread being useless. Which is a shame as you are usually very interesting to read.

sledger · 22-08-2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

Just to clarify - I don't think there is anything wrong with saying the toss has affected the match. More that it's a bit pointless to go into finer details.

I agree that mentioning the toss is a bit stupid, as generally the toss affects every match, not just this one.

Lillian Thomson · 22-08-2009, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sledger

I agree that mentioning the toss is a bit stupid, as generally the toss affects every match, not just this one.

So you think the importance of the toss is the same in every match? Go and ask your sister about it.

sledger · 22-08-2009, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson

So you think the importance of the toss is the same in every match? Go and ask your sister about it.

Obviously not the same in every match, but this is hardly the first match ever where the toss has been significant.

TT Boy · 22-08-2009, 06:27 AM

Seen worse 3rd innings wickets.

Dissector · 22-08-2009, 10:34 AM

England's 373 puts the pitch in perspective, doesn't it? Maybe it was good bowling and not the pitch that was responsible for Australia's first innings.

Lillian Thomson · 22-08-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dissector

England's 373 puts the pitch in perspective, doesn't it? Maybe it was good bowling and not the pitch that was responsible for Australia's first innings.

No it doesn't. The lower middle order were able to hit out under no pressure against defensive fields, which is an entirely different (ie easier) kettle of bananas.

Dissector · 22-08-2009, 10:44 AM

What about the century partnership between Strauss and Trott? In any event if the pitch was as terrible as claimed it should have been possible to set reasonably attacking fields to the lower middle order and bowl them out cheaply. If the pitch is giving serious assitance, attack is always the best form of defense.

Lillian Thomson · 22-08-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dissector

What about the century partnership between Strauss and Trott? In any event if the pitch was as terrible as claimed it should have been possible to set reasonably attacking fields to the lower middle order and bowl them out cheaply. If the pitch is giving serious assitance, attack is always the best form of defense.

The century partnership is what set up the lower middle order to be able to play their shots.

Dissector · 22-08-2009, 11:36 AM

And Australia end up with 80 for 0. So 395 runs scored for the loss of 6 wickets on Day 3 of an alleged minefield.

0RI0N · 22-08-2009, 02:04 PM

Well done England for winning the Ashes. There will be no miracles for 0z tomorrow I hate to say.
The luck has always been with England this series.
4 tosses won by Strauss
last pair surviving at Cardiff
Dodgy umpiring
What a great heist by England.
Aus 100's 7
Eng 100's 2
2 - 1 to England undeserved but ya, congratulations nonetheless.

22-08-2009, 04:30 AM	#46 (permalink)
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22-08-2009, 04:35 AM	#48 (permalink)
GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,601	Haha, please tell me I am not the only one to see the irony in your post

22-08-2009, 04:54 AM	#50 (permalink)
GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,601	Oh please, every 3rd cricket thread you are in there with a snide comment about the thread being useless. Which is a shame as you are usually very interesting to read.

22-08-2009, 06:27 AM	#54 (permalink)
TT Boy Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: . Posts: 16,321	Seen worse 3rd innings wickets.

22-08-2009, 10:34 AM	#55 (permalink)
Dissector International Debutant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: India Posts: 2,101	England's 373 puts the pitch in perspective, doesn't it? Maybe it was good bowling and not the pitch that was responsible for Australia's first innings.

22-08-2009, 10:44 AM	#57 (permalink)
Dissector International Debutant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: India Posts: 2,101	What about the century partnership between Strauss and Trott? In any event if the pitch was as terrible as claimed it should have been possible to set reasonably attacking fields to the lower middle order and bowl them out cheaply. If the pitch is giving serious assitance, attack is always the best form of defense.

22-08-2009, 11:36 AM	#59 (permalink)
Dissector International Debutant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: India Posts: 2,101	And Australia end up with 80 for 0. So 395 runs scored for the loss of 6 wickets on Day 3 of an alleged minefield.

22-08-2009, 02:04 PM	#60 (permalink)
0RI0N State 12th Man Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Groom Lake Posts: 703	Well done England for winning the Ashes. There will be no miracles for 0z tomorrow I hate to say. The luck has always been with England this series. 4 tosses won by Strauss last pair surviving at Cardiff Dodgy umpiring What a great heist by England. Aus 100's 7 Eng 100's 2 2 - 1 to England undeserved but ya, congratulations nonetheless.

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