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    Just to clarify - I don't think there is anything wrong with saying the toss has affected the match. More that it's a bit pointless to go into finer details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    What a pointless argument. Might as well argue that if England had picked me I'd have taken 7-4. Nobody ****ing knows so what is the point in stating such things as facts?
    It's obviously not facts, just speculation. If you think it's pointless don't join in, simple.

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    Haha, please tell me I am not the only one to see the irony in your post

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Haha, please tell me I am not the only one to see the irony in your post
    I think you might be........


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    Oh please, every 3rd cricket thread you are in there with a snide comment about the thread being useless. Which is a shame as you are usually very interesting to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Just to clarify - I don't think there is anything wrong with saying the toss has affected the match. More that it's a bit pointless to go into finer details.
    I agree that mentioning the toss is a bit stupid, as generally the toss affects every match, not just this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledger View Post
    I agree that mentioning the toss is a bit stupid, as generally the toss affects every match, not just this one.

    So you think the importance of the toss is the same in every match? Go and ask your sister about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson View Post
    So you think the importance of the toss is the same in every match? Go and ask your sister about it.
    Obviously not the same in every match, but this is hardly the first match ever where the toss has been significant.

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    Seen worse 3rd innings wickets.

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    England's 373 puts the pitch in perspective, doesn't it? Maybe it was good bowling and not the pitch that was responsible for Australia's first innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dissector View Post
    England's 373 puts the pitch in perspective, doesn't it? Maybe it was good bowling and not the pitch that was responsible for Australia's first innings.
    No it doesn't. The lower middle order were able to hit out under no pressure against defensive fields, which is an entirely different (ie easier) kettle of bananas.

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    What about the century partnership between Strauss and Trott? In any event if the pitch was as terrible as claimed it should have been possible to set reasonably attacking fields to the lower middle order and bowl them out cheaply. If the pitch is giving serious assitance, attack is always the best form of defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dissector View Post
    What about the century partnership between Strauss and Trott? In any event if the pitch was as terrible as claimed it should have been possible to set reasonably attacking fields to the lower middle order and bowl them out cheaply. If the pitch is giving serious assitance, attack is always the best form of defense.

    The century partnership is what set up the lower middle order to be able to play their shots.

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    And Australia end up with 80 for 0. So 395 runs scored for the loss of 6 wickets on Day 3 of an alleged minefield.

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    Well done England for winning the Ashes. There will be no miracles for 0z tomorrow I hate to say.
    The luck has always been with England this series.
    4 tosses won by Strauss
    last pair surviving at Cardiff
    Dodgy umpiring
    What a great heist by England.
    Aus 100's 7
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    2 - 1 to England undeserved but ya, congratulations nonetheless.

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