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Did anyone else hear Alec Stewart on the radio the other day? He said he'd only ever once asked for a particular pitch in his tennancy as captain and England lost by over an innings to Sri Lanka with Murali taking 14 wickets. If he asked for a dry turner against a team with Murali in it then that's just idiotic and he deserved what he got!
In this case I reckon a green seamer would be our greatest prospect of a win. We don't have the spinners to excel on a dustbowl but then again, neither do they. Hauritz has been the best spinner in this series by a mile though so a green seamer it is.
At least the weather forecast looks better now...
England don't want a green seamer. Siddle and Johnson are much more effective off the pitch than Jimmy and Onions. I'd make a pitch fast enough to ensure that every edge carries then hopefully get the ball to swing one way or another (if it doesn't go orthodox it'll probably reverse).
And don't pick Harmison.
Well I reckon the only conditions that would possibly favour England (and then only just) is if it swings round corners (and they then pick sidearse, please oh please not harmison), which is unlikely and not something the groundsman can control anyway. A seamer would bring Stuart Clark into the picture and then it would be lights out England IMO. They tried the dust bowl theory in cardiff and it went horribly wrong. I don't rate Hauritz at all, Swann is definitely a better bowler IMO, however the Australians are much better players of spin than this English side so it balances out in favour of the Aussies.
Personally I hope the groundsmen does something to ensure a result regardless of who it favours, a high scoring draw would be such a damp squib.
I take it there is no further news from the Oval curator on the type of pitch being developed then? A high scoring game would indeed be a real damp squib, especially if the Aussies win the toss. They could get 600 or so and then its bye bye ashes. If the England captain can ask for a type of pitch then he should certainly do so but knowing Strauss (who I really don't rate as a captain) then he won't.
A groundsman should always be aiming to prepare a pitch which gives a result, ideally around tea-time on day 5. This is, of course, a lot harder to do than it sounds.
He took 16 wickets, not 14, BTW.
^And the conditions
Originally Posted by John King
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Quality swing bowlers will swing a good-quality ball in the right condition regardless of atmospheric conditions, but yes, nice overcast skies are helpful.
This Test should be timeless
no timeless tests were universally regarded as awful, the teams batted incredibly defensively and it was awful viewing
I'd settle for a game like the last timeless test at the Oval
BTW I haven't checked but I'm guessing the last timeless Test at The Oval was 1938?
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