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[sledger]

I hate British/English patriotism. Which is something I class as something entirely different from passionately following a national team btw. I just really think that as a nation on a whole, are way of being patriotic absolutely sucks. I can't stand all the mini Union Jacks and things like that, gah.

[0RI0N]

Originally Posted by sledger

I hate British/English patriotism. Which is something I class as something entirely different from passionately following a national team btw. I just really think that as a nation on a whole, are way of being patriotic absolutely sucks. I can't stand all the mini Union Jacks and things like that, gah.

Lol sledger, could be worse...imagine Union Jacks displayed on people's property American style!
Or those little flags that American politicians stick to their jackets.

[GIMH]

Originally Posted by sledger

I hate British/English patriotism. Which is something I class as something entirely different from passionately following a national team btw. I just really think that as a nation on a whole, are way of being patriotic absolutely sucks. I can't stand all the mini Union Jacks and things like that, gah.

Yeah, hence why I wanted to disasocciate myself with an absolute reference of patriotism. There are definite connotations of full-on racism with such English patriotism (not entirely fair but understandable) but I support our cricket team more than I do any other sporting team barring the mighty whites.

Get behind the footy team as well but not as much as I do the cricketers, mainly because I find it hard to devote much energy to a second footy team throughout the season.

[sledger]

Originally Posted by 0RI0N

Lol sledger, could be worse...imagine Union Jacks displayed on people's property American style!
Or those little flags that American politicians stick to their jackets.

That is true, though to be fair to our American counterparts, at least you get the feeling that a lot of them genuinely care about their country and are proud to be American, I honestly feel there are fewer and fewer people in the UK who you could say that for. I myself am probably in that category, I feel priveleged and lucky to have been brought up in the UK and to have had the opportunities I have, but at the same time I wouldn't really say I am proud of the country in it's current state.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

I'm not an ultra-patriot, more an ultra-supporter of the England cricket team, FTR.

Ay, I guess, but they're two pretty similar things.

but anyway, I'm also an eternal optimist, so if I'm worried, everyone else should be

Nah, DWTA. I think you're far less optimistic in your head than you are in your heart, TBH. Any decent England fan who has something called a "memory" is, really.