- As featured in The Independent.
"Even when England lost 5-0 in 2006-07 I don't remember them folding like this. This is as bad as I have seen from an England side."
- Mick Vaughan on the 2013/14 tourists' efforts
Nah I agree with Uppercut. If Australia draw this series they can have the urn, they still come out drawing a series against a pretty poor test cricket team.
"I am very happy and it will allow me to have lot more rice."
Eoin Morgan on being given a rice cooker for being Man of the Match in a Dhaka Premier Division game.
That's ludicrous. We should pick our best team to win, but if we are in a sticky situation and get to a point where winning is very unlikely but we can still draw, then we can alter our plans a bit.
The Ashes is the greatest prize in cricket. Winning them is more important than any World Cups, Champions Trophies, short-form cricket or spurious ranking system. Note that I said "winning" them. Merely retaining them is not the same thing, it's a pathetic achievement in comparison. It's the difference between telling your grandchildren "I was in the team that won the Ashes" as opposed to, "I was in the team that retained the Ashes with a 1-1 draw".
Though being the holders we obviously have the advantage of adapting to the different circumstances that could develop during the 5th test, but there is no doubt we would definitely be go into the 5th test trying to win the game.
I reckon it'd be a real shame if the Aussies are that happy with a draw. We should be happier with that scoreline than them, in a way. I know they 'retain the Ashes' but all that means is they drew with us but they keep them because they used to be a great team.
If he is playing as an all-rounder it makes much more sense to bat him down the order. If he is at the end of a long spell - then cleans up the tail he will have a 5 minute turnaround to be out batting. He appears to be having a bit of trouble with concentration as it is getting out just over 50 3 inning in succession.
You're suggesting disrupting the batting order to accommodate Watson. There is a pecking order and Watson IMO is at the bottom...well maybe ahead of Hussey. What is best for him should be considered last (second last)Suggesting Watson or Katich at 4 is very odd - when there is this guy call Michael Clarke, who is getting runs and should be at 4 now..
Agree with your sentiment re: batting No.3 in the future...would like to see either Watson or North there. But whoever takes it has to earn it. Clarke has been earmarked by the powers that be - but I think he is more suited to 4.
He is a great one-day player, but lacks penetration as a bowler at test level. His figures for this series are overinflated because of the last test - where he happened to be bowling when Australia went the tonk.
When Flintoff is gone and you have to pick a mere mortal all-rounder I hope he has improved and is the one who fits the bill, more impressive than Bresnan. One thing England always seems to have over Australia is the all-rounder. Can see it continuing with this guy as his batting improves.
I'm not talking about results or the game itself. I'm talking about decisions made at the selection table before a ball is bowled.
Last edited by Bloody Hell; 13-08-2009 at 12:44 PM.
RIP Craigos. A true CW legend. You will be missed.
Theres no way in hell an Australian side will ever start a match with a mindset of trying to draw a match to secure anything, we're not the English. Any captain who would consider it is a fool.
We've been unfortunate to not be 2-1 up at this stage. We'll be going in for the kill at the Oval trying to continue on the momentum from the 4th test.
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