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    Obviously it was ******** scheduling, mind you, at one point it was Zimbabwe who were scheduled to play us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Yeah, concur with Jono & Cozza, Fred was too big a risk but we tooled up badly replacing him with an erratic seamer rather than a batsman. Seriously doubt if we've put out a weaker top order in the last decade.
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    If we replaced Hingston with a machine that just randomly selected between the phrases "I hate the IPL", "I Hate England", "I'm a fair-dinkum Saffie, don't you know", and "Fight me, I'm tough, bro", would anyone notice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post


    Obviously it was ******** scheduling, mind you, at one point it was Zimbabwe who were scheduled to play us.
    Tbf you had Bangladesh out before us in 05 and it worked out pretty well.
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    Oh yeah, it was mainly the Sri Lanka tour that I was calling ********. It's not ideal playing the weaker teams first up in an Ashes summer, but the schedule doesn't really allow for anything else. Next time New Zealand are over here they only get two tests though, because it's in an Ashes year, that's a real shame IMO.

    The fact that we played Bangladesh in 05 could have been costly actually, as we saw Ian Bell have a similar summer to Bopara this time out (IIRC Bell went into the 05 Ashes with a Test average of 297) but thankfully there were other batsmen there to cover for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamee999 View Post
    If we replaced Hingston with a machine that just randomly selected between the phrases "I hate the IPL", "I Hate England", "I'm a fair-dinkum Saffie, don't you know", and "Fight me, I'm tough, bro", would anyone notice?
    "Murali chucks it" should be there or thereabouts.
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    I broke this story yesterday afternoon. Anyway, FWIW, I think England made the correct decision. I think it was better for him to play 5% fit at the Oval. Rather than 2% fit at Headingly, and miss the Oval.

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    Well, considering Flintoff's bowling was poop at Edgbaston Flintoff could only have been considered as batsman. But Flintoff in a team and not bowling would probably be more psychologically damaging than no Flintoff.

    Just my theory of course.

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    It looks like it's time for Samit Patel to get off the pies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    It's not ideal playing the weaker teams first up in an Ashes summer, but the schedule doesn't really allow for anything else.
    Nope, it doesn't. England have never had a series against a strong or strong-ish team at home immediately preceding a home Ashes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Nope, it doesn't. England have never had a series against a strong or strong-ish team at home immediately preceding a home Ashes.
    Bit harsh on 2001 Pakistan imo.

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    I did think that, but with Pakistan you never really know what they are until the time has come and passed. And by-and-large, on that tour, they were a shambles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    I did think that, but with Pakistan you never really know what they are until the time has come and passed. And by-and-large, on that tour, they were a shambles.
    50/50 wasn't it? Needn't have bothered turning up at Lord's but comfortably beat us at Old Trafford iirc. They were certainly streets ahead of any other warm-up act we've had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpdavid View Post
    50/50 wasn't it? Needn't have bothered turning up at Lord's but comfortably beat us at Old Trafford iirc. They were certainly streets ahead of any other warm-up act we've had.
    Wasn't that the test we lost 7 wickets after tea on the final day to lose? Shep missed about 3 wickets off no-balls if memory serves. We should've probably got away with the draw, but it is us.
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