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Old 08-08-2009, 02:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Already plentiful discussion about who England should pick for this one so thought we could do with a thread.

Freddie will return, surely. Other than that, ****ed if I know what we should do.
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Old 08-08-2009, 02:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Already plentiful discussion about who England should pick for this one so thought we could do with a thread.

Freddie will return, surely. Other than that, ****ed if I know what we should do.
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I don't think Anderson will be fit so Sidebottom in for him.
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All we have to do is win on one of the flattest decks in the country with a batting line-up in which the tail starts at 2. Easy.
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All we have to do is win on one of the flattest decks in the country with a batting line-up in which the tail starts at 2. Easy.


Strauss
Cook
Trott
Joyce
Collingwood
Prior
Flintoff
Swann
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Sidebottom
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Strauss
Cook
Trott
Joyce
Collingwood
Prior
Flintoff
Swann
Broad
Sidebottom
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This, imo. With Anderson if he is fit.
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Bring in Paul Horton I say. Far more solid at the top of the order than Cook.

Why oh why did Marcus have to retire?
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Wouldn't want Trott in against the new ball (and yes I know he opens in one-day domestic stuff). If you were going to drop Bell and Bopara for him and Joyce, I'd run with this order:

3 Joyce
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Seems rough to throw in Joyce and Trott into such a must win situation, no?

I suppose Ramps and/or Tresco are absolutely out of the question?

Also, the Freddie circus of will he or wont he must stop. An early call would be best for all concerned.

If Freddie is unable to play, then it really does become interesting...
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strauss
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joyce
collingwood
prior
flintoff
broad
swann
anderson or sidebottom
onions

i know this well never happen, oh well :P
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I guess we can only hope he's doing something completely different with the test match strip than he's been doing for the FC games. Four games there this season, four draws. In the last match there, between Surrey and Leicestershire and ending five days ago, 593/5d played 608/4d.
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Broad
Swann
Anderson/Harmison/Sidebottom depending on pitch/fitness
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Yeah, pretty much the side that England should play at the Oval, but AFAIC even if they make these changes,they have taken a test too many in doing so, I don't think it would be easy for people like Key and Joyce to step into the middle of an Ashes series in such a crucial game.

The Oval pitch is also another huge factor for this test, if it is as flat as usual, then there is no chance of a result, so with all this time between the 4th and 5th test England need to come up with a result producing deck for the fifth test, and the only way to do it is, by keeping the pitch as dry and uneven as possible.

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Am a bit concerned about the time between these two tests from Australia's point of view. Would prefer these tests to be back-to-back given this result. Although I guess it does give players like Johnson the chance to improve even further.
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