If our England fans could choose a type of pitch to maximise their chances at The Oval, what ould it be?
Pre-series the talk was England's superiority in spin. They played two at Cardiff but it didn't really work out, though the turn there was low and slow. Also, although I agree Swann > Hauritz, is the difference given the way Swann has bowled great enough to go the way of preparing a bunsen?
Likewise, it seems to me England's attack relies a little more on atmospherics rather than what's in the wicket. Given what happened at Headingly and indeed in SA where Australia's attack excelled when there was something in the deck but has struggled in recent times when it's flat, do they risk a green-top, especially given their batting issues atm?
Find it a bit of a conundrum tbh, though 2-1 down is as bad as 1-1 for them, given we hold the urn. Maybe they just green it up and risk it
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I really don't know what sort of pitch would be best. I don't want a bunsen as if they bring Panesar in for any of the seamers then I will scream.
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Jimmeh is fit as well, btw. Hoping for a repeat of Lord's, Anderson does the work in the first dig allowing Fred the heroics in the second. God I am so hyped already, can't believe I have to wait a week and a half. It's gonna be emotional, bye bye to Freddie
But SA aren't playing....
It's not the past vs the present though and England have done well to firstly go 1 up and then be challenging into the last test. They're a good chance for mine, who knows what Australia will throw up - I'm hoping for a repeat of the last test but who knows. I'm concerned about the impact of Freddie coming back for his last test. Although I suspect he'll develop a limp by the second day (if England bowl first) and will be on and off the field during the match having baths (possibly his first for the week) and getting treatment.
I think what we've seen so far is two team whose bowlers rely on the conditions to produce and whose batsmen haven't been all that they could be. Anything could happen at The Oval, which is what I'm slightly concerned about.
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England have only had 1 catastrophic batting failure in the series to date, in the first innings at Headingley. We hear about the 7 vs 1 centuries but that is more due to England's bowlers running out of ideas and bowling poorly. The bowling from England has generally been shocking. Quite simply when Clarke and North have been batting, England don't even look like getting them out, even when they first come to the crease. Onions bowling a spell of short deliveries to Ponting (one of the best pullers and hookers ever) was total rubbish and his captain should have stepped in and put a stop to it.
So far in this series, we have managed enormous scores at Cardiff, 2nd innings at Lords, 2nd innings at Edgbaston and our only innings at Headingley. Flintoff returning for his final test match should bolster your attack considerably but the bowlers at the other end need to improve their concentration by 200% if England are to be a chance in the match.
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Let's not forget the Aussies have had 1 only win and are more than capable of an epic fail themselves.A first innings rogering puts payed to the Ashes.
Don't understand the Aussie's over confidence. As someone put it. The fat lady ain't even clearing her throat
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