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    Quote Originally Posted by pasag View Post
    We've finally got a spin bowler bowling well after TWO years and you want to drop him? I wouldn't have selected him before the series and am on record being pretty harsh in relation to him but there's no logic in dropping Haurrie after the past three Tests. Should be given an AO if anything.
    Yah, agreed. The thought was that he'd be a containing bowler but he's a genuine attacking option if the conditions are even slightly turning. He's doing his job and more, no reason to drop him and plenty to retain.
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    Ponting says Australia have turned the corner

    Interesting assessment this from Ponting, from where I look at it, we got bowled out pretty cheaply in the 1st innings,and then allowed England once again to post a 1st innings score of 350+ despite having them 168/5.

    The batting effort in the 2nd innings showed a lot of resolve and determination, and probably Ponting thinks that it would lift the morale of the side and help them perform better in the next game, Ponting's words also indicate that they might go with an unchanged side into the next test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie View Post
    ....Right its time AUS play 4-seamers. Hauritz has not disgracred himself in this series, but he hasn't improved the bowling attack. The only way i'd keep Haurtiz is IF Watson can bowl, which he ATM it really looks like he's becoming a batsman who can bowl a bit, since those 3 overs he bowled where disgraceful.

    AUS need 4 STRONG bowling options, since lets be straight up with Bopara/Bell 3&4, AUS really should not be allowing ENG to score 350+ so often.

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    Haddin/Manou - injury precaution of course ATS
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    Johnson/Siddle - Who plays depends on if Haddin is fit. If Haddin is fit, drop Johnson because we can do without his lower order batting. If Haddin aint fit, i'd be willing to keep him since i like his heat in the 3rd test.

    PS - Looking forward to the ODI set-up & T20, Watson's lack of bowling really affects the balance of those teams as well. Damn yo


    ENG are pretty safe dont expect any chances, until the 5th test when Harmo or Sibebottom will finally come in to replace Broad, sheesh..
    You want to carry two 30+ y.o. quicks who are both coming off injury, one of whom hasn't bowled since hurting himself in a tour game? That's gutsy mate, but it's a product of them not calling for bowling cover when Lee first got injured.
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    Clark for Siddle the most likely change. I don't think there will be any other change apart from that.
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    There's no way, aussie, that they'll even think of dropping Johnson now, after he made significant improvements in this Test.

    Siddle out is probably the only likely change (outside of Haddin, of course).

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    There's no way, aussie, that they'll even think of dropping Johnson now, after he made significant improvements in this Test.

    Siddle out is probably the only likely change (outside of Haddin, of course).
    This. I wonder, if it's a raging green top, will they bring Ronnie in as well for Hauritz. Seems unlikely, but it may be an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    This. I wonder, if it's a raging green top, will they bring Ronnie in as well for Hauritz. Seems unlikely, but it may be an option.
    Nope, reckon Haury's spot is secure for the series. If anything, they'll give Watto more of the ball if they need it.

    EDIT: Sure enough, Ponting on record saying the same;

    http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,...009880,00.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    This. I wonder, if it's a raging green top, will they bring Ronnie in as well for Hauritz. Seems unlikely, but it may be an option.
    In that live talk thing you get on Cricinfo at lunchtime, one of the journalists said he might not be available as his wife was going to give birth soon. Has there been anything official on that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    You want to carry two 30+ y.o. quicks who are both coming off injury, one of whom hasn't bowled since hurting himself in a tour game? That's gutsy mate, but it's a product of them not calling for bowling cover when Lee first got injured.
    Clark should have played since the first test. There is nothing wrong with him that i could see in that televised warm-up, just the foolish notion by Neilsen that "Clark can't play because he & Siddle are the same type of bowler" christttt.

    Lee defiantely wont be 100% match it, his situation is just like McGrath in 05. But if he has no injury woes he has to play for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pup11 View Post
    We need to decide which three fast-bowlers we're gonna play at Headingley, and if we pick the right one's then there won't be any need to play with 4 seamers, and not to mention its something that's very likely to backfire considering the kind of flat and dry pitches we he have seen across UK this summer.
    Why only 3?. Hilfenhaus is the only consistent bowler so far. Siddle has been dangerous but a bit too expensive compared to his efforts in SA to be a SOLID force in a 3-man pace attack & we all know about Johnson (although as i said i liked he effort in this test).

    Plus if the pitches do get flat reverse swing will be a factor. Thus Lee & Hilfy will come into play, which will be more dangerous than Haurtiz.

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    Hauritz bowled beautifully at Edgbaston, though he might just have one wicket to show for it, but his control and his variations of pace were excellent, and he is a must in for the rest of the series, as he provides Ponting with both variation and control.
    As i said he hasn't disgraced himself, but he aint by no means indespensable come on now. AUS surely ATS can gain more by picking 4 quicks, than persisting with Haurtiz for the remainding tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Nope, reckon Haury's spot is secure for the series. If anything, they'll give Watto more of the ball if they need it.

    EDIT: Sure enough, Ponting on record saying the same;

    'Warm up Watto', says Ponting - The Ashes 2009 - Fox Sports
    Those 3 overs he bowled where horrible. Watson is wayyyyy of the level he was in IND. This is madness ATM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie View Post
    Those 3 overs he bowled where horrible. Watson is wayyyyy of the level he was in IND. This is madness ATM.
    I was more worried about how Watson looked than they way he bowled - stiff as a friggin' board and an injury waiting to happen

    Select him as a bat and forget the bowling IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie View Post
    Those 3 overs he bowled where horrible. Watson is wayyyyy of the level he was in IND. This is madness ATM.
    Agree 100% he can only be picked on his batting form

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie View Post
    Clark should have played since the first test. There is nothing wrong with him that i could see in that televised warm-up, just the foolish notion by Neilsen that "Clark can't play because he & Siddle are the same type of bowler" christttt.
    Or maybe they actually have observed him in nets etc and know that he wasn't fit enough or something?
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    Wouldn't have imagined myself saying this a few weeks back, but I'd be pleased if Hauritz was dropped. Been Australia's second best bowler I reckon (after Hilfy).
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