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    Reckon Cribb is an Englishman in disguise. The highest praise of the lot, WAG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    I've seen his figures, and they're exactly as always. If he's bowled massively worse (which he'd have to have done to be a lesser option than Amjad Khan or Darren Pattinson) then this WOULD be reflected in his figures. No two ways about.

    Sorry, Hoggard's exclusion makes zero sense. No plausible, reasonable case can be constructed in favour of it. Unless he's slept with 5 or 6 of the rest of the team's wives.
    Couldn't disagree more, thank God the selectors don't make their decisions based on figures alone!!!
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    Headingley if my memory is correct ATM, hasn't swung since Caddick took 4 wickets vs WI in 2000. Its be very flat since.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixFire View Post
    Reckon Cribb is an Englishman in disguise. The highest praise of the lot, WAG.
    Haha, well I did pretty much call England's batting crap in that post. Although that's probably an even more English thing to do than sticking up for Swanny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Couldn't disagree more, thank God the selectors don't make their decisions based on figures alone!!!

    Ask me 365 days in a year, and Id much rather the selectors pick based on figures alone than pick Amjad Khan.

    Making selections based upon other factors other than figures is great and all, but that's only assuming that the selectors have the slightest clue about what it takes to succeed at test match cricket which quite frankly they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie View Post
    Headingley if my memory is correct ATM, hasn't swung since Caddick took 4 wickets vs WI in 2000. Its be very flat since.
    How did it go in 07? I can't remember for sure, but didn't Sidey swing us to an innings win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Haha, well I did pretty much call England's batting crap in that post. Although that's probably an even more English thing to do than sticking up for Swanny.
    Yeah, to be a true Englishman you need to stick the boot into the team and say how **** they are and then get really defensive if an Australian says the same thing and argue completely the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    I was more worried about how Watson looked than they way he bowled - stiff as a friggin' board and an injury waiting to happen
    Exaclty, absolutely no energy in his bowling.

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    Select him as a bat and forget the bowling IMO
    I heard on the first day on the radio at a pub, Jim Maxwell saying he spoke to Watson & the impression he got, was that Watto clearly see's himself now as batsman who can bowl a bit. Which overall is very sad for AUS cricket.

    Surprising i didn't hear any of the TV commentators mentions this though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie View Post
    Headingley if my memory is correct ATM, hasn't swung since Caddick took 4 wickets vs WI in 2000. Its be very flat since.
    I'm going to assume that you've missed a lot of cricket at Headingley over this decade then.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    Or maybe they actually have observed him in nets etc and know that he wasn't fit enough or something?
    Well given the tactics going into the 3rd test was to pick Watson in place of Hughes because they where sure he could bowl as an all-rounder & he bowled that utter rubbish, the credibility of the team management should be in question.

    AFAIC is just the ideological premise of not wanting to pick 4-seamers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool View Post
    I'm going to assume that you've missed a lot of cricket at Headingley over this decade then.....
    Haha, AWTA so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    How did it go in 07? I can't remember for sure, but didn't Sidey swing us to an innings win?
    Headingley is easily the strangest ground in England in that in bright sunshine it is as flat as any pitch going around and then when there's cloud cover or moisture in the air, the ball starts to move around all over the place. Over the past decade, teams have scored 500+ whilst teams have been dismissed for less than 150 in the same test match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool View Post
    I'm going to assume that you've missed a lot of cricket at Headingley over this decade then.....
    Ha, well its off my head ATM. Wasn't a sure statement.

    In 2001, it swung early when Pigeon took 7, but defiantely got flat at least to the end of the test when Butcher scored 173.

    Cant remember anything from 02

    03, oh yes it swung that year. Remember Kallis taking a 6 wicket haul

    NZ 04 hmm, maybe a little. But not significant.

    05 no tests

    06 was flat

    07 the swing Sidebottom got againts was woefully exaggerated by the poor techniques of the WI batsmen.

    08 flat.

    So only in 2000 on 2003 has it swung the traditional Leeds style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooextracool View Post
    Headingley is easily the strangest ground in England in that in bright sunshine it is as flat as any pitch going around and then when there's cloud cover or moisture in the air, the ball starts to move around all over the place. Over the past decade, teams have scored 500+ whilst teams have been dismissed for less than 150 in the same test match.
    That happened last summer against Saffa pretty much, gloomy Friday saw them swing us out, then they racked up what felt like a thousand

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