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    In one match, I'd be 50:50 on them; on a series or a year, I'd have Pietersen without a backward glance.
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    Personally, I'd take M. Hussey over the 2 of them but thats just me.
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    Are we talking of them as 'individual' batsman or as batsman who enchance their teams positions?
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    As a rule, the two tend to be compartmentalised. Doing one means you have a very strong chance of doing the other.


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    Hussey>>Pietersen for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pup Clarke View Post
    Are we talking of them as 'individual' batsman or as batsman who enchance their teams positions?
    Can't see why that would make a difference.

    I'd take Ponting too. Every single time.
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    Oops I thought the argument was Pietersen vs Hussey. KP vs. Ponting isn't even close.

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    It's no slur on KP to have to demur to Ponting, Punter's in the top half-dozen ever Oz batsmen. Only really Bradman is certainly above him, although cases could be made for G Chappell & (perhaps) Trumper too.

    Pietersen's streets ahead of Hussey just now tho, there's not even a case to make for the latter on current form. When a bloke is in semi-serious danger of being dropped it's a nonsense to look at his whole career for a form guide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James_W View Post
    Oops I thought the argument was Pietersen vs Hussey. KP vs. Ponting isn't even close.
    Of course it is. Considering Ponting the better currently isn't completely devoid of merit, but suggesting he's streets ahead is plain wrong. Anyone making such a suggestion frankly suggests they've not been watching cricket since December 2006.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Of course it is. Considering Ponting the better currently isn't completely devoid of merit, but suggesting he's streets ahead is plain wrong. Anyone making such a suggestion frankly suggests they've not been watching cricket since December 2006.
    If I could chose one, I'd definitely have Ponting.

    Statistically, KP is averaging higher, but he does have the advantage of having played 34% of his matches against West Indies in that time, whereas Ponting only 8%... and that does have some effect on the stats.

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    So let's hear their averages against South Africa, New Zealand, India and Sri Lanka then?

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    I think their respective innings in the first test are the reason I'd choose Punter first still. He's far less likely to jizz it away once set.

    EDIT: Incidentally, it said in today's Guardian of KP's likely replacement that he's played 10 tests versus Oz and has recorded 11 single figure scores. Not a stat to warm English cockles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    So let's hear their averages against South Africa, New Zealand, India and Sri Lanka then?
    Opposition - Pietersen - Ponting

    India - 47.33 - 47.02

    New Zealand - 44.50 - 64.85

    Pakistan - 42.15 - 81.61

    South Africa - 60.14 - 56.38

    Sri Lanka - 48.60 - 50.05

    West Indies - 57.56 - 62.77

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    So let's hear their averages against South Africa, New Zealand, India and Sri Lanka then?
    Almost what you asked for, but including Aus/Eng

    KP 46.18

    Ponting 42.97

    I could close the gap a little by declaring NZ also not worthy.

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    or not, they've played them a roughly equal amount. And clearly, while it's right to point-out that Pietersen has benefited from West Indies to a far greater degree, in doing that you must also acknowledge that Pietersen's runs against Australia in 2006/07 were worth far, far more than Ponting's against England.

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