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    The four pitches remaining

    Wondering how they've been holding up in the domestic games and what to expect over the remainder of the series? We had months to discuss the Cardiff pitch, but not much has been said of the four that are left.
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    Lord's is next, and the last match there was a bit of a bore-draw. The qualification for games in England is that if it's overcast, batting still won't be easy. But I fully expect a cricket-killer game.
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    I'm not sure for the other grounds whether the domestic games have too much bearing on the test pitches. With the amount of preparation that goes into the test pitches, especially at the grounds with a large square, they can be quite different.

    Cardiff was obviously slighty different with them never having prepared a test pitch before, the FC pitches were a decent guide (and it seems it turned out pretty much like those pitches)
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    Well if it's another flat pitch at Lord's expect the England batsmen to make a game of it.
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    Lord's being next (back in its rightful Second Test slot) you'd have to imagine will not offer a great deal, but the pitch we had for the match against West Indies a couple of months back was waaaay more sporting than anything we've had since Ashes 2005.

    Trent Bridge there's really no way of knowing what it's going to produce, it's different almost every year; Headingley it depends completely on the prevailing weather as has been the case since time immemorial; The Oval you can be pretty certain there'll be virtually nothing in it for seam and virtually nothing in it for seam. Last time there was anything much for either was a decade ago, and that was an odd-one-out case itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    Well if it's another flat pitch at Lord's expect the England batsmen to make a game of it.
    Ind33d, they showed plenty of reason to think this in Cardiff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes View Post
    Ind33d, they showed plenty of reason to think this in Cardiff.

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    Silly, all the English batsmen just got themselves out. Don't you know anything about cricket?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Silly, all the English batsmen just got themselves out. Don't you know anything about cricket?
    (Please excuse the swears and stupidity that will ensue)

    Channeling a typical yobbo Australian supporter:

    ****ing oath mate

    hauritz was bloody terrible. he isnt a spinners arse. shoulda taken 10 wickets on that deck. warney woulda done a thousand Gattings on that surface

    ponting was bloody horrible too

    shoulda declared before the auzzies reached 600

    needed time to bowl the pathetic poms out

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    Well, as you can see, whatever Ponting does, if you believe many Australian supporters, he's a terrible captain. He simply can't win.

    One person on another forum hilarously argued that Australia should've declared before reaching 600. Only problem is, the English would've played differently, they weren't as psychologically jaded and they probably would've had an opportunity to set us a small chase and make life difficult for us. They could play with the freedom that they did in the first innings and the game would probably be dead long before time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Lord's being next (back in its rightful Second Test slot) you'd have to imagine will not offer a great deal, but the pitch we had for the match against West Indies a couple of months back was waaaay more sporting than anything we've had since Ashes 2005.

    Trent Bridge there's really no way of knowing what it's going to produce, it's different almost every year; Headingley it depends completely on the prevailing weather as has been the case since time immemorial; The Oval you can be pretty certain there'll be virtually nothing in it for seam and virtually nothing in it for seam. Last time there was anything much for either was a decade ago, and that was an odd-one-out case itself.
    Typo here.

    Back on topic, that odd case you are referring to - would that be 1997, where Phil Tufnell ran riot? (Murali also cleaned up England at the Oval a year later - I've seen footage of that; it was a terrific performance)

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    Cardiff does seem a pitch very much like those found at the ARG and at Queens Park Oval last year....

    It's interesting to see the the English and Welsh authorities are quite capable of preparing dead batting strips against stronger opposition as well. And like the West Indies, England find themselves hanging on for a draw in nail-biting circumstances despite this!

    Posters on this MB have accused the West Indies of deliberately preparing these dead pitches. I wonder if they share the same view of the English authorities for preparing this Cardiff pitch against an Australian side that's ranked number one in the world by the ICC Test rankings....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes View Post
    Ind33d, they showed plenty of reason to think this in Cardiff.

    Wait....
    Think that's the point he's making tbh...if its a flatty at Lords, it should be a bore draw, but you can't count on that with England's batsmen

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    It was said somewhere that Graeme Smithers told the England cricket team that to beat Australia they needed to produce essentially flat decks which just turned a little bit. That's probably what the rest of the pitches are gonna be like. If that's the case then I hope nearly every game is a draw like the last one with England just hanging on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inbox24 View Post
    It was said somewhere that Graeme Smithers told the England cricket team that to beat Australia they needed to produce essentially flat decks which just turned a little bit. That's probably what the rest of the pitches are gonna be like. If that's the case then I hope nearly every game is a draw like the last one with England just hanging on.
    Surely Cardiff would have shown them the problem with that line of thinking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes View Post
    Ind33d, they showed plenty of reason to think this in Cardiff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaRick View Post
    Typo here.
    Ay, not for the first time when trying one "seam" and one "spin", two of one of them has resulted.
    Back on topic, that odd case you are referring to - would that be 1997, where Phil Tufnell ran riot? (Murali also cleaned up England at the Oval a year later - I've seen footage of that; it was a terrific performance)
    Was actually referring to 1999 actually TBH, had forgotten that it was pretty much the same in 1997. Let's not forget, Caddick's performance in 1997 was crucial, same way Tufnell's was.

    Other than that, just about every Oval deck in my memory has offered nothing to any bowlers. That 1998 one was one of the best examples, and it just makes Murali's performance even more phenomenal.

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