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    Quote Originally Posted by frey View Post
    Enjoying the first test mate?? What a hoot.
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    Think Hauritz will stay in for Lords, esp if he gets some wickets tomorrow.

    Don't expect Lords to help him as much as Sophia Gardens. Would expect him to be the one to make way for Lee in the 3rd test.

    Obv. Paneser should be out for Onions. Harmison for Broad is very tempting.
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    Can't see the point of Harmison if it's your typical Lord's pitch. At least Broad can bat. Onions for Monty is a must obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Boy View Post
    5 so far. He will (read is likely to) play, as well Onions. Monty and either Broad or Anderson out.
    Anderson would be seriously unlucky to miss out.

    Given the extent to which we're being outclassed, I wonder how many guys we'll get through this summer. Sidebottom & Rashid will probably play at some stage. This smacks of 1989 all over again. Time to discover another past-time, I think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    Think Hauritz will stay in for Lords, esp if he gets some wickets tomorrow.

    Don't expect Lords to help him as much as Sophia Gardens. Would expect him to be the one to make way for Lee in the 3rd test.

    Obv. Paneser should be out for Onions. Harmison for Broad is very tempting.
    actually monty does have a few lords 5 fers (against the Windies mostly, yes) but lords is becoming helpful to spin on day 4/5 these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andruid View Post
    actually monty does have a few lords 5 fers (against the Windies mostly, yes) but lords is becoming helpful to spin on day 4/5 these days.
    Monty conceded a record number of runs without a wicket on day 4/5 at Lord's last year IIRC.
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    Lord's has been very flat since 2005. So depending on how ENG bat on the final day it will dictate selection for this test. But regardless Monty has to go.

    One thing is for sure already the worries about Cook & Bopara going into this series has already surfaced, so ENG should be careful about preparing a too bowler friendly deck, since it will make AUS pace attack even more dangerous.

    Worrying times for ENG already.

    For AUS i just hope they drop Hauritz & pick Clark...

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    It's Lord's so the draw should be the odds-on favourite, unless they've retained the T20 pitches. Flintoff will be knackered after Cardiff so he might have to be replaced too,

    Agree with the obvious swap of Onions for Panesar, but I don't think they will change a second bowler. Flower doesn't seem to be the kind of guy who would allow Harmison to leapfrog Onions into the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frey View Post
    Enjoying the first test mate?? What a hoot.
    Such wit.

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    Strauss
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    Prior
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    Rashid
    Harmison
    Sidebottom
    Anderson

    Chances are we will be 1-0 down, why not try being more agressive and give the Aussies something different?
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    Because Swann doesn't deserve to be dropped and there is no reason to pick Sidebottom whatsoever?

    Not to mention Onions has to be next bowler in line
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    MSP surely... surely... has to go. Onions to replace him, you'd imagine, but you can never take anything for granted with England's selectors at the current time.

    Harmison for Broad would have some merit (can't see Harmison being successful really, but nor can I see Broad being), but I feel Plunkett for Broad would possibly make more sense... and that's virtually none whatsoever. At least Plunkett is a hopeless bowler who can bat a bit, same as Broad. Though he's nowhere near as good as Broad with the bat.

    Either way, I don't think it's exceptionally likely that Broad will be dropped. Just hope they don't go and do something stupid, along the lines of picking Pattinson in 2008.

    As regards the deck, well the match against West Indies earlier this summer was easily the liveliest Lord's Test deck since 2005. And before anyone goes on about it being May - yes, so were the opening Tests in 2006, 2007 and 2008, and none of them had a particularly remarkable amount in them for seam either, though admittedly more than the second Lord's Tests in 2006 and 2008 did.

    So in short it's not remotely unrealistic to expect a result pitch. Can England win only their 2nd victory against Australia in 113 years? I doubt it TBH.
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    Strauss
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    Or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alw1971 View Post
    Strauss
    Cook
    Bopara
    Pieterson
    Collingwood
    Prior
    Flintoff
    Rashid
    Harmison
    Sidebottom
    Anderson

    Chances are we will be 1-0 down, why not try being more agressive and give the Aussies something different?
    I would like to see England do this, but I think you also need to look seriously at Bopara and Cook.

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