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    Quote Originally Posted by Jungle Jumbo View Post
    I actually thought the Clark one was clearly out live in real time. I even shouted "Just walk Stuart, you know you hit it..." at the TV. So I have some sympathy with the umpire.

    Yet I also thought North was not out in real time. Odd.
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    I actually reckon Clark's was as bad as that "edge" that does the rounds on UToobs where the batsman appears to miss by a coupla of feet. Except for real. In a test. In the Ashes. 5th of five.
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    Thought Strauss was out first ball of today, turned out to be a gun decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixFire View Post
    Thought Strauss was out first ball of today, turned out to be a gun decision.
    Think it was Trott, tbf.


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    Very true.

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    Tbh, I'm not sure it was a "great decision" so to speak, it was obviously the right decision, but I wonder if the umpire (given all the other mistakes made in this match) just missed the ball clipping anything whatsoever...obviously I have no real reason to think this, but, this possibility did occur to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledger View Post
    Tbh, I'm not sure it was a "great decision" so to speak, it was obviously the right decision, but I wonder if the umpire (given all the other mistakes made in this match) just missed the ball clipping anything whatsoever...obviously I have no real reason to think this, but, this possibility did occur to me.
    I don't think so, the noise and deflection looked pretty obvious to me. As I said in the 5th test thread, I'd have had me finger up.

    Although after the Clark decision I can understand why you might think that...

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    I, on the other hand, wouldn't have given it, but that would have been a Shakoor Rana moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    I don't think so, the noise and deflection looked pretty obvious to me. As I said in the 5th test thread, I'd have had me finger up.

    Although after the Clark decision I can understand why you might think that...
    Yeah, I don't actually think it is what happened tbh, as like you say, there was a fairly obvious deviation of the ball mid-flight. But like you say again, the Clark decision from yesterday lingering in my mind meant that I did entertain the possibility.

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    Greg's article:

    Referral, Not the Plan A

    It doesn't matter who you support, England or Australia, it's a safe bet that supporters from both sides will agree the standard of umpiring this 2009 Ashes series has been nothing short of abysmal.

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    Interesting article, but it should be borne in mind that the first example is incorrect.

    Koertzen didn't take Strauss' word for it, Doctrove actually saw it carry so there's no grounds for going to the 3rd umpire as the umpire's view wasn't obscured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    Doctrove actually saw it carry
    Interesting take on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes View Post
    Interesting take on it.
    It's what the umpires have said publicly. And on that basis they were right not to refer it.

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    I know that's what they said. Billy saying he saw it carry was what I was referring to as interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes View Post
    I know that's what they said. Billy saying he saw it carry was what I was referring to as interesting.
    Yeah - a dreadful umpire but tbf he's got to call it as he sees it.

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