The last Ashes without referrals – a running tally of umpiring errors - Page 25

dontcloseyoureyes · 22-08-2009, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jungle Jumbo

I actually thought the Clark one was clearly out live in real time. I even shouted "Just walk Stuart, you know you hit it..." at the TV. So I have some sympathy with the umpire.

Yet I also thought North was not out in real time. Odd.

Don't ever become an umpire, plz Georgy.

BoyBrumby · 22-08-2009, 04:46 AM

I actually reckon Clark's was as bad as that "edge" that does the rounds on UToobs where the batsman appears to miss by a coupla of feet. Except for real. In a test. In the Ashes. 5th of five.

PhoenixFire · 22-08-2009, 03:48 PM

Thought Strauss was out first ball of today, turned out to be a gun decision.

BoyBrumby · 22-08-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixFire

Thought Strauss was out first ball of today, turned out to be a gun decision.

Think it was Trott, tbf.

PhoenixFire · 22-08-2009, 04:06 PM

Very true.

sledger · 22-08-2009, 04:54 PM

Tbh, I'm not sure it was a "great decision" so to speak, it was obviously the right decision, but I wonder if the umpire (given all the other mistakes made in this match) just missed the ball clipping anything whatsoever...obviously I have no real reason to think this, but, this possibility did occur to me.

BoyBrumby · 22-08-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sledger

Tbh, I'm not sure it was a "great decision" so to speak, it was obviously the right decision, but I wonder if the umpire (given all the other mistakes made in this match) just missed the ball clipping anything whatsoever...obviously I have no real reason to think this, but, this possibility did occur to me.

I don't think so, the noise and deflection looked pretty obvious to me. As I said in the 5th test thread, I'd have had me finger up.

Although after the Clark decision I can understand why you might think that...

fredfertang · 22-08-2009, 05:04 PM

I, on the other hand, wouldn't have given it, but that would have been a Shakoor Rana moment

sledger · 22-08-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

I don't think so, the noise and deflection looked pretty obvious to me. As I said in the 5th test thread, I'd have had me finger up.

Although after the Clark decision I can understand why you might think that...

Yeah, I don't actually think it is what happened tbh, as like you say, there was a fairly obvious deviation of the ball mid-flight. But like you say again, the Clark decision from yesterday lingering in my mind meant that I did entertain the possibility.

James · 23-08-2009, 04:48 AM

Greg's article:

Referral, Not the Plan A
It doesn't matter who you support, England or Australia, it's a safe bet that supporters from both sides will agree the standard of umpiring this 2009 Ashes series has been nothing short of abysmal.

marc71178 · 23-08-2009, 05:20 AM

Interesting article, but it should be borne in mind that the first example is incorrect.

Koertzen didn't take Strauss' word for it, Doctrove actually saw it carry so there's no grounds for going to the 3rd umpire as the umpire's view wasn't obscured.

dontcloseyoureyes · 23-08-2009, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

Doctrove actually saw it carry

Interesting take on it.

zaremba · 23-08-2009, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes

Interesting take on it.

It's what the umpires have said publicly. And on that basis they were right not to refer it.

dontcloseyoureyes · 23-08-2009, 06:00 AM

I know that's what they said. Billy saying he saw it carry was what I was referring to as interesting.

zaremba · 23-08-2009, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes

I know that's what they said. Billy saying he saw it carry was what I was referring to as interesting.

Yeah - a dreadful umpire but tbf he's got to call it as he sees it.

22-08-2009, 04:46 AM	#362 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,629	I actually reckon Clark's was as bad as that "edge" that does the rounds on UToobs where the batsman appears to miss by a coupla of feet. Except for real. In a test. In the Ashes. 5th of five. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

23-08-2009, 04:48 AM	#370 (permalink)
James Cricket Web Owner Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 22,295	Greg's article: Referral, Not the Plan A It doesn't matter who you support, England or Australia, it's a safe bet that supporters from both sides will agree the standard of umpiring this 2009 Ashes series has been nothing short of abysmal. __________________ Follow Cricket Web on Facebook Follow Cricket Web on Twitter Email - james.nixon@cricketweb.net Moderators - moderators@cricketweb.net (will go to all moderators) Skype - nixonja@hotmail.com Google Talk/Facebook - cricketweb@gmail.com

23-08-2009, 05:20 AM	#371 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	Interesting article, but it should be borne in mind that the first example is incorrect. Koertzen didn't take Strauss' word for it, Doctrove actually saw it carry so there's no grounds for going to the 3rd umpire as the umpire's view wasn't obscured. __________________ marc71178 - President and founding member of AAAS - we don't only appreciate when he does well, but also when he's not quite so good! Anyone want to join the Society? Beware the evils of Kit-Kats - they're immoral apparently.

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sledger Spanish_Vicente Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: cricsim, lol Posts: 28,134	Tbh, I'm not sure it was a "great decision" so to speak, it was obviously the right decision, but I wonder if the umpire (given all the other mistakes made in this match) just missed the ball clipping anything whatsoever...obviously I have no real reason to think this, but, this possibility did occur to me.

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fredfertang Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: high dudgeon Posts: 9,728	I, on the other hand, wouldn't have given it, but that would have been a Shakoor Rana moment

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