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    Looks like by the end of the series this thread will end up the longest ever, on any forum on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Pretty sure that any Australian Cricket fan would not have this attitude that it didn't impact on the result at all.
    Yeah, Australian fans are an optimistic bunch. Fuller called it at the start of the fourth day's play - perhaps it's because of 17 years where the side basically walked on water.

    Reality though is they were buried at the start of the day. No-one chases 520 to win a Test. Might very well never happen as long as Tests are played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Yeah, Australian fans are an optimistic bunch. Fuller called it at the start of the fourth day's play - perhaps it's because of 17 years where the side basically walked on water.

    Reality though is they were buried at the start of the day. No-one chases 520 to win a Test. Might very well never happen as long as Tests are played.
    I bet you $5000 AUD that someone will one day chase 520 plus in the 4th innings to win a Test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Well, whether Hussey was out or not to that lbw earlier, he was absolutely certainly not out when he did get given...

    So that's 3-1 to England on the "out"s.

    Speaking of which, though, Australia are damn lucky that all these bad "out" decisions have come in an innings where they were just waiting to be beaten. They haven't impacted on the result at all.
    Think Hussey's was a fair enough mistake though, I doubt there would be a bowler in the game who wouldn't have been absolutely convinced that that was out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    I bet you $5000 AUD that someone will one day chase 520 plus in the 4th innings to win a Test.
    If it happens, I'll allow my great-great-great-grandson to seek out yours and we'll see if they can get our ashes to do business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Think Hussey's was a fair enough mistake though, I doubt there would be a bowler in the game who wouldn't have been absolutely convinced that that was out.
    I said as much in the match thread - certainly no howler - but Hussey clearly missed it, so therefore the right outcome would've been for him to have remained at the crease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Yeah, Australian fans are an optimistic bunch. Fuller called it at the start of the fourth day's play - perhaps it's because of 17 years where the side basically walked on water.

    Reality though is they were buried at the start of the day. No-one chases 520 to win a Test. Might very well never happen as long as Tests are played.
    It's obviously highly unlikely but it'll probably happen one day, and it'll be in a match like this one, with an excellent batting pitch and a strong(ish) batting lineup that failed in the first innings and left a big target and a lot of time to chase. Teams have already chased well over 400 so 520 isn't that much of a stretch.

    If Australia were 1/200 at tea for example, you'd be pretty optimistic as an England fan if you didn't feel like Australia could win. England were 95% favourites but the game wasn't over, so a couple of wickets makes a difference. That's all there is to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Speaking of which, though, Australia are damn lucky that all these bad "out" decisions have come in an innings where they were just waiting to be beaten. They haven't impacted on the result at all.
    Jesus Christ, this takes it to a whole new level.

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    Brilliant performance from the umpires today, gave some brave decisions.

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    3 of the top 5 given out incorrectly is very similar to what happened to England on a regular basis on the 1982/83 Tour - the difference so far being that the bottom 6 often suffered a similar fate. I think Mr Doctrove has one great big blunder still left in him in this match - maybe a LBW with the score on 519-9.

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    that would be sweeeeeeet

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    Quote Originally Posted by superkingdave View Post
    Yeah was thinking they could have some kind of system similar to cyclops in tennis..could really do it for every ball without too much delay...would be decided by the time the bowler got to the end of his mark
    I've been suggesting this for years - give the 3rd umpire no balls, allows the field umpire to be concentrating on the batsman constantly rather than having to look down then up in a fraction of a second.

    I'd also give them earpieces linked to the stump mic (and the 3rd umpire) - to have a better listen for snicks etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Have thought they should have a machine for no-balls that does the same job as the Cyclops does in tennis for donkey's years... at risk of broken-record.jpg's, it should've been the very first technological Umpiring aid brought in.
    Agreed.

    I think it would be pretty easy to have a camera monitoring the overstepping from side on, with a bit of software to immediately analyse the images, check if overstepping has occured and signal a no-ball if so. That could even take the form of a *beep* that if quick enough could give an alert batsman a chance to take a wild swing at the ball.

    If the image analysis software part isn't as easy as I would envisage, then you achieve something very similar with a couple of lasers; or you could just get the third umpire to monitor them manually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straw man View Post
    Agreed.

    I think it would be pretty easy to have a camera monitoring the overstepping from side on, with a bit of software to immediately analyse the images, check if overstepping has occured and signal a no-ball if so. That could even take the form of a *beep* that if quick enough could give an alert batsman a chance to take a wild swing at the ball.

    If the image analysis software part isn't as easy as I would envisage, then you achieve something very similar with a couple of lasers; or you could just get the third umpire to monitor them manually.
    Yeah, the camera's already there though - they use them for run outs and stumpings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Yeah, the camera's already there though - they use them for run outs and stumpings.
    That's right - all you need is the bit of software or the third umpire to monitor it - I mean, what else does the third umpire do with his time? Would probably appreciate something to keep him awake.

    The only reason I'm not 100% on the idea of the third umpire monitoring this, with a big red 'no ball' button sitting there in front of him, is that in trying to react quickly mistakes would be made - especially if you want it signalled quick enough for the batsman to react (though really, that's probably not necessary). I'm imagining a Bucknor-like figure peering at the screen from the 3rd umpire chair, with his finger hovering over that button every ball and the umpire in the middle every so often being radioed "Sorry that wasn't really a no-ball. My finger slipped".

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