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#408. Sixty three not out forever.
Indeed. Where else are we going to get our chuckles from as everything goes wrong for them?
Originally Posted by John King
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If Pietersen does get ruled out, I'll be straight onto the NZ TAB site to back the Aussies for a series win.
Oh well no big loss.
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I certainly don't remember any such time.
Some Australians have always made a habit of the notion that injuries are an acceptable reason to talk down any England victory, but not to talk down any Australian one. I guess it stems from the belief that a full-strength Australia will always beat a full-strength England - the truth of which, as I say above, is difficult to know given the last time such a thing happened was probably about never.For the last four years we've had you lot bleating that the only reason we won two Tests in 2005 was that McGrath missed both games; why would you want to hand us the same excuse?
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And yes, we have been somewhat adversely affected by absences in recent series (maybe not enough to alter the result though). The loss of Flintoff and Simon Jones in 2002-03 and Jones, again, Vaughan and Trescothick in 2006-07 clearly hurt us - although it meant that in 2005 Flintoff was in a sense our 'secret weapon' - the Aussies having seen so little of him.
In 2002/03 and 1994/95 England suffered innumerable injuries. Flintoff and Simon Jones were both pretty poor at the time of their 2002/03 absences, but who knows how much of a difference they might've made in 2006/07.
WTR to Jones, before 2005 about the only memory many Aussies had of him was, sadly, his unfortunate injury at the Gabba. I don't suppose his mood against us was helped by some spectators yelling out "Get up you soft Pommie ****" when he hit the deck that day
Last edited by Burgey; 10-06-2009 at 06:20 PM.
Odd's would be better now, and if Pietersen goes, odds will be worse.
The only things I could think of in response to this is you are an idiot, you think Australia will dominate England with or without Pietersen, or you think Pietersen is dire and/or won't have an impact on the series.
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