View Poll Results: Who will score more runs in the 2009 Ashes?

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  • Mitchell Johnson

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  • Stuart Broad

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Thread: Johnson vs Broad with the bat

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    Ho ho, I get that now. Verrrrrrry clever.
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    To take a simplistic view, If the innings ended when the 6th wicket fell, it would have been 2-2 going in to the Oval
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    Think Broad will score more runs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    D'you mean Trent Bridge? Or even Old Trafford?

    In which without Australia's lower-order runs England would have cakewalked both games
    Exactly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Reckon Johnson is a fairly safe bet to score more runs in said Ashes, purely because I can't see it being very likely that he won't play all five Tests; Broad I think it's quite possible he'll have to go at some point, as his bowling I still don't feel is good enough to keep him in the side against really good batting like Australia's.

    Broad I think is a potentially better batsman (better technique and more convincing strokeplay) as I said in the previous thread asking this same question, but of late Johnson has outdone him, considerably. Broad, of course, used to be a specialist bat, and it seems something of a shame that he spent 3-4 years neglecting this completely having found he could also bowl.
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    I think Broad is the more technically oriented batsman among the two.
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    Broad as he is more likely to bat in more innings. (9 vs 7 IMO).

    Think neither will average over 25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    The Ian Bell Syndrome strikes again.....
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    The Filth have comfortably the better bowling. But the Gash have the batting. Might be quite good to watch.

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    Very useful to have a bowling all-rounder. One of the toughest roles to fill, to find a cricketer who can hold his own with the ball, and yet punish the opposition bowlers batting at 7 or 8.

    I think we have seen what Johnson is capable of. When in form, he is a fantastic striker of the ball. An average of around 25 is reflective of his ability.

    Broad is an uncertainty. His improvement is rapid, he does appear to have a really solid technique. But after 55 first class games he has yet to score a century, if we compared him to a young batsman after 55 games who has yet to score a century we would think of that player as below average regardless of any improvements made. Really uncertain as to what Broad may achieve.

    Johnson to score more runs in the Ashes. Will play all 5 games. No guarantee Broad will do the same.

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    Don't see Johnson scoring as many runs as Broad. Will have too much bowling to do, a few swashbuckling cameos aside. Tough to pick the better batsman, though.

    Hopefully he won't be required.
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    Johnson. Depends on our top order batting though.
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    Mitchell Johnson is, at his best, infinitely more damaging than Stuart Broad. However, he is also fairly inconsistent (being a lower-order batsman) and relies on power and hand-eye coordination, rather than a sound technique. He is roughly comparable to Lance Klusener (only Klusener was obviously a much better batsman and a vastly inferior bowler for all but one Test). As his ODI record shows, he's a nervous starter, too.

    Broad is more technically adept, more consistent and has more batting potential (if Geoff Boycott is to be believed), but lacks the ability to take the game away from sides in the manner that Johnson can. Despite averaging over 30, he's only scored 3 50's. That's indicative of a player who gets starts, but who cannot go on with them - the exact opposite of Johnson, exactly, who seemingly either scores big or scores relatively little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    The Ian Bell Syndrome strikes again.....
    Well not really... Bell is a to-date relative failure; Broad has precious little to-date to judge and we're talking about how good he could be, not how good he is.

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    Broad is trying to be Johnson - it's the only reason I can think he went around the wicket in the last over today.

    Oh, and Johnson hits the stumps more often from 25 centimetres away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Oh, and Johnson hits the stumps more often from 25 centimetres away

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