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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    Hughes has looked convincing??
    Considering the runs his made have all come from the middle of the bat and not through edges or miss-hits like people usually claim for a struggling batsman. Although I'd hardly classify that Hughes is struggling.

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    Must say that I slightly agree with wtfben here. Against everyone that isn't Flintoff he's looked absolutely fine, but Freddie has given him grief because of the high release and steep rise. Hughes will always struggle with this until he develops a decent pull shot or is prepared to wear the ball (something Steve Waugh used to be prepared for). Hughes seems keen on neither at the moment and hence will find himself struggling against the sharp rising ball.

    Tall bowlers (that aren't rubbish ala. Morne) will always trouble him I reckon, as long as they get good sharp rise off the pitch. From all accounts Edgebaston is tarmac so I'd back him to make a score then, if he doesn't there then I think his confidence will be irrepairable for this series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pup11 View Post
    Phil Hughes might not have scored many runs so far, but I'm backing him to come good in the rest of the series, England haven't really blown him away or anything, they have just tucked him up and given him no room to work with, and eventually he has got out fiddling at balls he should be leaving well alone.
    Yeah, Hughes is the one batsman England have bowled really well to.

    The impression I've got is of one team doing well to keep an excellent batsman tucked-up, not of a joker looking like he hasn't got a hope. It takes quite some bowling to manage to keep that up for a full five-match series so Hughes may very well score something before long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes View Post
    From all accounts Edgebaston is tarmac
    Has been so far this year, but SWALEC and Lord's were hardly rubber or corrugated iron, so it's not likely to be enormously different if so.

    Of course ideally we might get something a bit more lively, though that might well be asking far too much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    The impression I've got is of one team doing well to keep an excellent batsman tucked-up, not of a joker looking like he hasn't got a hope. It takes quite some bowling to manage to keep that up for a full five-match series so Hughes may very well score something before long.
    Yeah I have to agree here (shock, horror!).

    All his shots have looked good when he's had opportunity to play them. He's middled his cuts and drives and defended the full and straight one solidly. Tucking him up has been his downfall.

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    Agree with Rich and Smitteh here, but I suspect if he's kept tucked up much longer he'll start to actually play badly at some stage.
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    The Filth have comfortably the better bowling. But the Gash have the batting. Might be quite good to watch.

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    Agreed. Hughes looks good, but tall quicks seem to trouble him, and his lack of height means that he keeps on getting bounced. Backing him to come good, I hope.
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    BTW what did wtf_ben get banned for? Just general obnoxiousness, or was there 1 particularly bad post?

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    Hughes is an extremely talented player but his talents are limited am afraid to the v square of the wicket on the offside.

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    Not sure where the origin of the phrase "with weaknesses like that, who needs strengths?" comes from, but it rings true.

    Graham Gooch may have been exaggerating when he said he made 40,000 First-Class runs with three shots, but he wasn't exaggerating by that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    BTW what did wtf_ben get banned for? Just general obnoxiousness, or was there 1 particularly bad post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Not sure where the origin of the phrase "with weaknesses like that, who needs strengths?" comes from, but it rings true.

    Graham Gooch may have been exaggerating when he said he made 40,000 First-Class runs with three shots, but he wasn't exaggerating by that much.
    The only thing is that he needs to find some sort of repellent to that ball. I'd draw a comparison with Steve Waugh, who many perceived to not like the ball tight and in the ribs once he stopped pulling. He then was able to sway inside the ball, but also get off strike with a tuck behind square.

    Hughes needs to find a way to score, even just a single to get down the other end, to that line of bowling. He hasn't looked like going out to it against anyone but Flintoff though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    BTW what did wtf_ben get banned for? Just general obnoxiousness, or was there 1 particularly bad post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    The only thing is that he needs to find some sort of repellent to that ball. I'd draw a comparison with Steve Waugh, who many perceived to not like the ball tight and in the ribs once he stopped pulling. He then was able to sway inside the ball, but also get off strike with a tuck behind square.

    Hughes needs to find a way to score, even just a single to get down the other end, to that line of bowling. He hasn't looked like going out to it against anyone but Flintoff though.
    Not in the tests, perhaps, but Harmison used a similar MO in the Loins game.

    Hughes is clearly an egregious talent with a wonderful eye but he does have a very quirky technique that means perhaps more attention is going to be drawn to his foibles than they are with more orthodox batters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigeon View Post
    Hughes is an extremely talented player but his talents are limited am afraid to the v square of the wicket on the offside.
    Let's not forget he is just 20 atm, and he has lot of time on his hands to develop and tighten his game, I think if you discount that those trigger movements of his, then one would notice that Hughes against pace bowling plays in quite the similar fashion as Michael Clarke used to do when he initially burst onto the scene.

    Clarke too like Hughes used to play a lot of flashy cut shots against the pace bowlers, and was predominantly an off-side, with a flick through mid-wicket or square leg being his only big scoring shots through the on-side.

    Clarke even now is predominantly an off-side player, but he has developed his on-side game too, and most importantly Clarke has grown into a more patient batsman, who waits for the right balls to play his shots, and likewise Hughes too would tighten his technique and game with time, but atm he should be allowed to play the he wants to.

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