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Old 18-01-2007, 02:54 PM   #31 (permalink)
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If you mean we're somewhat more welcoming to non-native born and/or raised English-qualified players then you do have a point with cricket
And as a result we benefit from the talent of those willing to commit themselves to the England cause... so we benefit where others snub.

Which, to me, looks like a good thing, even if Dmitri Mascarenhas still lists Aussie Rules as his sport, or Tony Greig, Allan Lamb, Robin Smith and Basil D'Oliveira would have played for South Africa had they been able to.

EDIT: no, I'm not accusing you of being an old-style Little Englander, please don't get shirty about that'un again
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.....Mother Australia spreads her petticoat quite wide in the search for ocker Rugger talent; taking in Zambia (George Gregan), South Africa (Dan Vickerman & Clyde Rathbone), Tonga (Toutai Kefu), Fiji (Lote Tuqiri) & New Zealand (Jeremy Paul).
Mother Australia???? We prefer the term Oz.
What rugby or rugby league do is of little interest outside QLD/NSW. The rest of us follow Australian Rules football in the AFL or local leagues and as it isn't a game played outside Australia there is none of the angst of who can/can't be picked for a national team.
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.... even if Dmitri Mascarenhas still lists Aussie Rules as his sport..
I'd never heard of him but Cricinfo put me right. Plays with Hampshire, isn't that Warney's team? He's a passionate Aussie Rules follower too, played U19s for St Kilda and if he'd made the senior team would never have gone on with cricket.
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He played for Hants long before Warne did, debuted as a 18-year-old or something crazy like that.
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He played for Hants long before Warne did, debuted as a 18-year-old or something crazy like that.
Not that crazy tbh. I have played against a 14 year old when I was playing for Yorkshire u-14 against Glamorgan youth, and he was playing for Glamorgan 2nd XI.
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Yeah, that's not the first I've heard of that, I've heard accounts of 14\15-yr-olds (Samit Patel, for example) playing the odd Second-XI game (Tim Bresnan even played in the National League at 16 ).

Still, that's crazy and so is playing first-team cricket at 18!
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Of course. Ever heard of Sam Northeast? Scored 40 100s in his time at Harrow School, just ridiculous. The most I ever managed in one season was 3
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Master Northeast has been on the radar for a little while now... even has a CricInfo profile, which is more than can be said for many bit-part Test players... and at the time of this post I'd still have to refuse to serve him alcohol if he came in my shop...
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Of course. Ever heard of Sam Northeast? Scored 40 100s in his time at Harrow School, just ridiculous. The most I ever managed in one season was 3
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I'd never heard of him but Cricinfo put me right. Plays with Hampshire, isn't that Warney's team? He's a passionate Aussie Rules follower too, played U19s for St Kilda and if he'd made the senior team would never have gone on with cricket.
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I can absolutley guarantee that if you lot played against some of the ****ty school sides that I do, then you would score runs.
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I can guarantee you that you can lob the ball up and I'll still find a way of getting out - probably for single-figures.
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Mother Australia???? We prefer the term Oz.
What rugby or rugby league do is of little interest outside QLD/NSW. The rest of us follow Australian Rules football in the AFL or local leagues and as it isn't a game played outside Australia there is none of the angst of who can/can't be picked for a national team.
So are you the scarecrow, the tinman, the cowardly lion or Dorothy?

&, TBF, the population of NSW & QLD is higher than the rest of Australia put together.
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I can guarantee you that you can lob the ball up and I'll still find a way of getting out - probably for single-figures.
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