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    I personally reckon Fred will be more-or-less over by 2009, sad to say. His ankle problems seem chronic, cortisone injections are never a good idea for injuries long term & he'll be 31 by then anyway.

    England I'll guess at:

    Strauss*
    Cook
    Bell
    Pietersen
    Joyce
    Rashid
    Davies+
    Broad
    Hoggard
    S Jones
    Panesar


    Rashid is the only real long-shot, Davies & Broad will play tests for England. Actually, if Rashid's leg-spin develops as we pray it will it could even curtail Monty's chances if the cheery Rhodesian is still in charge. It's obvious to any casual observer that Big Dunc likes his multi-dimensionals so a seamer like Tom Smith who has more potential with the willow could find himself in the team ahead of him.

    I can't see Vaughan's knee lasting two-and-a-half years, Collingwood still doesn't have the look of a long-term option & Harmy will have retired to the north-east to watch Newcastle's inevitable slide out of the football league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    So pretty much the side some people wanted this time then?

    Also, wouldn't Flintoff bat ahead of Read?
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    Didn't think you'd taken leave of your senses that much!

    Funny though that you think the team won't change one bit - yet you're not predicting a heavy Aus win?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    I personally reckon Fred will be more-or-less over by 2009, sad to say. His ankle problems seem chronic, cortisone injections are never a good idea for injuries long term & he'll be 31 by then anyway.

    England I'll guess at:

    Strauss*
    Cook
    Bell
    Pietersen
    Joyce
    Rashid
    Davies+
    Broad
    Hoggard
    S Jones
    Panesar


    Rashid is the only real long-shot, Davies & Broad will play tests for England. Actually, if Rashid's leg-spin develops as we pray it will it could even curtail Monty's chances if the cheery Rhodesian is still in charge. It's obvious to any casual observer that Big Dunc likes his multi-dimensionals so a seamer like Tom Smith who has more potential with the willow could find himself in the team ahead of him.

    I can't see Vaughan's knee lasting two-and-a-half years, Collingwood still doesn't have the look of a long-term option & Harmy will have retired to the north-east to watch Newcastle's inevitable slide out of the football league.
    Not sure that Hoggard will still feature. Or Jones, judging by the last 15 months.

    How about ...

    Strauss (c)
    Cook
    Bell
    Pietersen
    Collingwood
    Bopara
    Rashid
    Davies/Foster
    Broad
    Tremlett/Mahmood
    Anderson

    Result?
    2-1 England


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    Quote Originally Posted by wpdavid View Post
    Not sure that Hoggard will still feature. Or Jones, judging by the last 15 months.

    How about ...

    Strauss (c)
    Cook
    Bell
    Pietersen
    Collingwood
    Bopara
    Rashid
    Davies/Foster
    Broad
    Tremlett/Mahmood
    Anderson

    Result?
    2-1 England
    He'll only be 32 (I think) and he's been largely injury-free (side strain notwithstanding) compared to our other seamers. S Jones is possibly more of a hope than an expectation tho, yes.

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    Strauss (c)
    Cook
    Bell
    Pietersen
    Collingwood
    Flintoff
    +Davies
    Rashid
    Broad
    Harmison
    Hoggard


    Assuming Vaughan and Simon Jones are the ones that aren't fit as per usual. If Vaughan is fit knowing the poncy southern bias from England's selectors that's been going on for over century they'll probably drop Collingwood. Simon Jones if fit would come in for Broad or Harmison. England might want Panesar in for one of those two also, just to give Australia a chance.

    Some of the predictions of Panesar being leading wicket taker of the series were technically made yesterday, so I'll laugh now, for quite a while actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    He'll (Hoggard) only be 32 (I think) and he's been largely injury-free (side strain notwithstanding) compared to our other seamers. S Jones is possibly more of a hope than an expectation tho, yes.

    Then I'd slightly overestimated Hogg's age, which might change things. That being said, much as I admire him, I do think we want someone even better if we really want to challenge as a potential number 1 side. Obviously if Anderson doesn't develop & stay fit, then Hoggard stays. Ideally, Jones would stay fit & partner one of the tall brigade with the new ball, as I think he offers rather more, but I just don't see that happening. What I really hope is that Plunkett, Mahmood, Tremlett & any other young quicks that I've forgotten will really strive to raise their games over the next couple of years. Then things would be interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    Forgot about Plunkett (as seems to have Fletcher to some extent) him or Broad for that no.9 spot then.
    Plunkett must have loved the message that Fletcher didn't seem to reckon he could do any better than the rubbish served up by Harmison, Mahmood & Anderson. Makes you wonder why he went, really.

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    Strauss
    Cook
    Bell
    Collingwood
    Pietersen
    Joyce
    Davies +
    Broad
    Panesar
    Hoggard
    Tremlett


    Rogers
    Jaques
    Ponting*
    Hussey
    Clarke
    Voges
    Haddin+
    Clark
    Johnson
    Bailey
    Hilfenhaus

    Watson and Flintoff missing through injury, Lee and Harmison detoriated badly and were dropped.

    Top Run Scorers

    Eng: Joyce
    Aus: Jaques

    Top Wicket Takers

    Eng: Broad
    Aus: Johnson

    Result

    3-1 Aus
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    Big things predicted for Joyce, I've not seen it yet to be honest but I live in hope. I think Freddie will be utterly knackered by then, he'll be doing well to still be walking the rate he's going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    Forgot about Plunkett (as seems to have Fletcher to some extent) him or Broad for that no.9 spot then.
    LOL, Scaly you do make me laugh old boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    Strauss (c)
    Cook
    Bell
    Pietersen
    Collingwood
    Flintoff
    +Davies
    Rashid
    Broad
    Harmison
    Hoggard


    Assuming Vaughan and Simon Jones are the ones that aren't fit as per usual. If Vaughan is fit knowing the poncy southern bias from England's selectors that's been going on for over century they'll probably drop Collingwood. Simon Jones if fit would come in for Broad or Harmison. England might want Panesar in for one of those two also, just to give Australia a chance.
    Some of the predictions of Panesar being leading wicket taker of the series were technically made yesterday, so I'll laugh now, for quite a while actually.


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    MOTS: Pietersen

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    Eng: Pietersen
    Aus: Hussey

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    Aus: Macgill

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