Buchanan: "KP not a team player"

Stumped · 29-12-2006, 02:51 AM

got a link this time: http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SPORT/12...ustralia.reut/

Stumped · 29-12-2006, 03:23 AM

woops put this in the wrong categorie, would a moderator please move it to cricket chat?

James · 29-12-2006, 03:32 AM

This belongs in the Ashes category Stumped, because it's related to the Ashes.

Use the report post feature if you have an occurance like this again

Stumped · 29-12-2006, 03:33 AM

oh ok...i thought coz its not just the ashes its the way buchanan thinks kp conducts himself in all games not just the ashes

Craig · 29-12-2006, 03:43 AM

Personally what does it have to with him?

He wouldn't say it to KP's face though, especially if he had just finished a net session

howardj · 29-12-2006, 03:57 AM

lol

Who gives a toss what Buch thinks?

He's always been off with the fairies.

I think a few in his own team regard him as an irrelevance.

So I'm quite sure most of the opposition do.

FaaipDeOiad · 29-12-2006, 04:01 AM

What's with the article? It says that Pietersen "asked" to be moved up to 4 because he was sick of batting with tailenders, and then mentions that Fletcher said he hadn't wanted to bat there. I've not seen the first claim anywhere else, and it seems to contradict the second.

Stumped · 29-12-2006, 04:04 AM

mmm....never noticed that, but where does kp usually field

GIMH · 29-12-2006, 04:25 AM

Whether he's a "team player" or not, he's done more for the team than any other in this series, so who cares?

And it would have been better, for the team, if KP had not been stuck with the tail at Perth, and hence made bigger scores than he did. Same goes for Lord's last year.

howardj · 29-12-2006, 04:28 AM

I think the way he has slogged towards the end of the innings, when stuck with the tail, indicates that he's every bit the team player.

PhoenixFire · 29-12-2006, 07:43 AM

Couldn't give a **** what Buchanan thinks, and why should anyone. If it wasn't for KP we would have been thrashed a hell of a lot more than we just did.

sideshowtim · 29-12-2006, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFire

Couldn't give a **** what Buchanan thinks, and why should anyone. If it wasn't for KP we would have been thrashed a hell of a lot more than we just did.

Hard to be down by more than 4-0 with 4 matches played so far mate. That's a thrashing if ever I've seen one.

The point is that KP, even though Dunc and the rest of the team wanted him to bat 4 for the whole series, refused and said he felt more comfortable at 5. Since when the hell does he make those decisions? Fred should tell him "You bat 4 or you're out of the team". They wanted their best player at 4 and KP had a whinge and refused. So he finally bats 4, 8 innings too late. He put his own wants over the wants of the team.

That my friends, is not a team player.

PhoenixFire · 29-12-2006, 07:56 AM

How the hell do you know what went on?

Dasa · 29-12-2006, 07:57 AM

Has anyone actually confirmed that the Flintoff/Fletcher wanted Pietersen to definitely bat at four and he flat out refused?
All I've heard so far are rumours...

sideshowtim · 29-12-2006, 07:58 AM

I read the article. Dunc said that they all wanted him at 4 since the start of the series however he declined and said he felt better at 5.

""We've been trying to get him to four but he just feels very, very comfortable at five," Fletcher said"

The captain and coach wanted him at 4. KP is not in a position of authority. He should move wherever the hell the captain and coach want him to.

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29-12-2006, 03:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
Stumped Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Behind the Stumps Posts: 1,071	woops put this in the wrong categorie, would a moderator please move it to cricket chat?

29-12-2006, 03:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
Stumped Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Behind the Stumps Posts: 1,071	oh ok...i thought coz its not just the ashes its the way buchanan thinks kp conducts himself in all games not just the ashes

29-12-2006, 03:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
howardj International Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisbane Posts: 12,104	lol Who gives a toss what Buch thinks? He's always been off with the fairies. I think a few in his own team regard him as an irrelevance. So I'm quite sure most of the opposition do.

29-12-2006, 04:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
Stumped Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Behind the Stumps Posts: 1,071	mmm....never noticed that, but where does kp usually field

29-12-2006, 04:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
howardj International Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: brisbane Posts: 12,104	I think the way he has slogged towards the end of the innings, when stuck with the tail, indicates that he's every bit the team player.

29-12-2006, 07:56 AM	#13 (permalink)
PhoenixFire International Coach Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bitch please, I'm from West Yorkshire Posts: 14,986	How the hell do you know what went on?

29-12-2006, 07:57 AM	#14 (permalink)
Dasa International Vice-Captain Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 4,955	Has anyone actually confirmed that the Flintoff/Fletcher wanted Pietersen to definitely bat at four and he flat out refused? All I've heard so far are rumours...

29-12-2006, 07:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
sideshowtim Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 3,255	I read the article. Dunc said that they all wanted him at 4 since the start of the series however he declined and said he felt better at 5. ""We've been trying to get him to four but he just feels very, very comfortable at five," Fletcher said" The captain and coach wanted him at 4. KP is not in a position of authority. He should move wherever the hell the captain and coach want him to.

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