Look when a side is 4-0 down theres no way anyone can single out one reason only for England losing the Ashes. How many times have i mentioned over the last 3 years that the selection comittee is an absolute joke? A lot of the people seemed to think hey, our test side won the Ashes and we've been doing quite well in tests, hence our selectors are quite good in tests and useless in ODIs. Where is the logic in that? You're either a dumbass or your quite intelligent, you cannot vary between both in different forms of the game. Yes England would presumably have done better with all 3 of those in the side, but the selections of Jones over Read, Giles over Panesar, Flintoff as captain, Liam Plunkett in the squad were always daft selections and nothing has changed since then. If anything this Ashes has once again shown us that previous success had more to do with the quality of captaincy- Hussain and Vaughan- rather than the quality of the coach. Until the whole selection comittee is given a drastic shake up i cant see England getting out of this slump. The likes of Graveney, Fletcher and Flintoff should never come close to making another selection and a whole new personnel needs to be produced by the ECB if they indeed want to live up to their promise of being the best test team at the end of this year.