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Old 21-12-2006, 06:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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England Name ODI Squad

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England squad: J Anderson, I Bell, P Collingwood, J Dalrymple, A Flintoff, E Joyce, J Lewis, S Mahmood, P Nixon, M Panesar, K Pietersen, L Plunkett, C Read, A Strauss, C Tremlett, M Vaughan.

Vaughan named in squad , and is likely to be captain. Jones dropped for Nixon. Panesar played , although I thought he should have gone to India anyway. Tremlett probably the only other surprise. Oh and Harmison has retired from ODI's.
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Frankly, I am not sure if you should put Panesar in ODI team. You don't want to turn him into a defensive bowler.
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Old 21-12-2006, 06:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What about reads I thought he would have come in before Nixon?
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There`s already a thread on the series in CC. Mergeeee.
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Old 21-12-2006, 09:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Nixon's selection is both totally bizarre and completely predictable. Mirrors Udal's - a step back when there was an opportunity to take a step forward going begging.
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Nixon might not be Adam Gilchrist, but he's actually a very good batsman, that certainly has the talent to cope at ODI level. I remember watching him flick Darren Gough of his toes for a massive 6 at Chelmsford once.
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I don't think anyone except maybe James Foster, Stuart Broad or Darren Gough would have grounds to be too annoyed. Gough would be a huge backward step too, he was pretty cack when he came back in the (English) summer so I reckon his time has finally passed. Foster for Nixon & Broad for Plunkett should've been the way to go.

Panesar & Tremlett are encouraging inclusions; Panesar may hopefully be recognised as a genuine wicket taking threat & Tremlett seemed to have been totally forgotten since he came back from his injury probs.

The squad looks really short of runs tho. There's going to be massive pressure on KP, because if fails we're sqaurely screwed.
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I don't think anyone except maybe James Foster, Stuart Broad or Darren Gough would have grounds to be too annoyed. Gough would be a huge backward step too, he was pretty cack when he came back in the (English) summer so I reckon his time has finally passed. Foster for Nixon & Broad for Plunkett should've been the way to go.

Panesar & Tremlett are encouraging inclusions; Panesar may hopefully be recognised as a genuine wicket taking threat & Tremlett seemed to have been totally forgotten since he came back from his injury probs.

The squad looks really short of runs tho. There's going to be massive pressure on KP, because if fails we're sqaurely screwed.
That's assuming we'd be capable of competing even with him scoring 100 every game.
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That's assuming we'd be capable of competing even with him scoring 100 every game.
Very fair shout, actually. For all his heroics in SA we still lost (IIRC) 4-1 & we've regressed since then IMHO.
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The squad looks really short of runs tho. There's going to be massive pressure on KP, because if fails we're sqaurely screwed.
When has an England one day squad looked any different? Nah , I agree to an extent. If Vaughan plays , with if named captain he defiantly will , Pieteresen 4 , Colly 5. I think this is really over looking Ian Bell. Unless he opens , which is a bad move for me. I don't think Cook really needs this. England should have sent another opener out there. A Darren Maddy perhaps (Any better ideas encouraged). If Nixon plays then the batting looks better , but that would be another knife in the coffin for Chris Read. As for the bowling I would be surprised if Tremlett lines up along with Lewis as the two main seamers along with Flintoff , and two spinners in the form of Panesar and Dalrymple.

Probable line-up:

1. Andrew Strauss
2. Ian Bell / Alastair Cook ( More likely Bell)
3. Michael Vaughan
4. Kevin Pietersen
5. Paul Collingwood
6. Andrew Flintoff
7/8. Nixon/Read + Dalrymple. If Nixon plays Dalrymple will be at Number 8. If Read then Dalrymple At 7.
9. Chris Tremlett
10. Jon Lewis
11. Monty Panesar / Saj Mahmood (Depends on how the selectors are feeling).
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Very fair shout, actually. For all his heroics in SA we still lost (IIRC) 4-1 & we've regressed since then IMHO.
That was pretty much my point. It's all well and good him smashing runs left, right, and centre, but if he keeps arriving at the wicket with us 20-2 and soon finding himself the last recognised bat with only 150 on the board, even he won't be able to do much.
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I don't think anyone except maybe James Foster, Stuart Broad or Darren Gough would have grounds to be too annoyed. Gough would be a huge backward step too, he was pretty cack when he came back in the (English) summer so I reckon his time has finally passed. Foster for Nixon & Broad for Plunkett should've been the way to go.
Agreed - I am astonished that Broad hasn't been picked, and I really have no idea why he's not appeared since the Pak series.

As for Gough, how long do we reckon until we read or hear the usual "the lads all want me back" moan from old twinkle toes?
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Pretty poor that they are picking a 36 year old wicket keeper, he obviously has no future.
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