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Neil Pickup · 19-12-2006, 01:28 PM

I think we might have reached saturation point with Fletch... look for better, longer words in an upcoming feature...

Saqqy Mush · 19-12-2006, 01:34 PM

Tom Moddy and Bob Woolmer are far better coaches than Fletcher and would do a better job.

It's more of a case of who wouldn't, really.

steds · 19-12-2006, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhoenixFire

Why sack Fletcher?

Two words: Shaun Udal

33/3from3.3 · 19-12-2006, 01:38 PM

Even after all those suggestions have been put in place, England cricket will be really e

Neil Pickup · 19-12-2006, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saqqy Mush

Tom Moddy and Bob Woolmer are far better coaches than Fletcher and would do a better job.

It's more of a case of who wouldn't, really.

Are you sure? Bob Woolmer's English, after all...

silentstriker · 19-12-2006, 01:44 PM

Disturbingly enough, Chappell might be available even if we win a series in SA (making it two successive away series won outside the subcontinent, which would be two more than the amount won in 20 years). It would depend on how we do in WC.

Crazy bunch, us Indians. If he's available, he wouldn't be a bad person for the job. I think he is a very good coach, and so is Tom Moody I think.

AussieDominance · 19-12-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

Actually I'm not so sure it would since employment laws over here mean there's a lot of non-English qualified players around (as they're cheaper relatively speaking) - so they're more likely to be kept on.

So youre saying the County Championship structure is right as Kolpak's can strengthen the comp?

Saqqy Mush · 19-12-2006, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Pickup

Are you sure? Bob Woolmer's English, after all...

So is Phil The Power Taylor and I consider him a beloved God.

steds · 19-12-2006, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieDominance

So youre saying the County Championship structure is right as Kolpak's can strengthen the comp?

No, he's saying that because of the employment laws meaning the ECB cannot stop Kolpaks, that reducing the number of teams would probably mean a large reduction in places available for English players.

chris.hinton · 19-12-2006, 02:10 PM

Youth, Club and Second xi need Tweaking, it time for a overhaul as players get lost, and are in a comfort zone

Neil Pickup · 19-12-2006, 02:13 PM

You say "tweaking"... that suggests minor alterations.

Ideally would be a grade-style system where clubs have several different levels of sides, feeders up/down and a strong community basis for young players to progress; but because of the way towns and villages are in the UK, that is impossible, and we have to have a system that supports the County Championship.

It wasn't bad 15 months ago...

AussieDominance · 19-12-2006, 02:18 PM

In Sydney and Other States around Australia we all have a grade comp of 12-20 Teams Underneath the big one NSW or whatever this seems to work quite well and Sydney Grade is the strongest local comp in the world

I would think it be higher than County level if you ask me many a county player come each year and struggle and end up in 2nd and 3rd grade.

Neil Pickup · 19-12-2006, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieDominance

In Sydney and Other States around Australia we all have a grade comp of 12-20 Teams Underneath the big one NSW or whatever this seems to work quite well and Sydney Grade is the strongest local comp in the world

I would think it be higher than County level if you ask me many a county player come each year and struggle and end up in 2nd and 3rd grade.

Name them and we might take you seriously.

AussieDominance · 19-12-2006, 02:28 PM

Ben France is out here at the moment, Niall O'Brien,Gul Welton, Reed i think it was from Lancashire,Strauss struggled out here years agoClaydon played for Yorkshire this year,Alan Richardson,Tim Murtagh

Just to name a few.

superkingdave · 19-12-2006, 02:45 PM

France eh? The name should have told them he was rubbish

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19-12-2006, 01:34 PM	#32 (permalink)
Saqqy Mush Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 28	Tom Moddy and Bob Woolmer are far better coaches than Fletcher and would do a better job. It's more of a case of who wouldn't, really.

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chris.hinton International Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,324	Youth, Club and Second xi need Tweaking, it time for a overhaul as players get lost, and are in a comfort zone

19-12-2006, 02:13 PM	#41 (permalink)
Neil Pickup Cricket Web Staff Member / Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 26,361	You say "tweaking"... that suggests minor alterations. Ideally would be a grade-style system where clubs have several different levels of sides, feeders up/down and a strong community basis for young players to progress; but because of the way towns and villages are in the UK, that is impossible, and we have to have a system that supports the County Championship. It wasn't bad 15 months ago...

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AussieDominance Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 3,746	In Sydney and Other States around Australia we all have a grade comp of 12-20 Teams Underneath the big one NSW or whatever this seems to work quite well and Sydney Grade is the strongest local comp in the world I would think it be higher than County level if you ask me many a county player come each year and struggle and end up in 2nd and 3rd grade.

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AussieDominance Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 3,746	Ben France is out here at the moment, Niall O'Brien,Gul Welton, Reed i think it was from Lancashire,Strauss struggled out here years agoClaydon played for Yorkshire this year,Alan Richardson,Tim Murtagh Just to name a few.

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