Hands up if you wrote off McGrath - Page 2

Mr Mxyzptlk · 25-11-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Poker Boy

I couldn't believe anyone wrote him off - and take note S Harmison - this is his first FC match since Janruary and no sign of rust. Mind you it does help if the batting is spineless but that ain't his fault...

McGrath is infinitely better than Harmison though, so it's not really anything the same.

Perm · 25-11-2006, 04:11 PM

Nope I never stopped beleiving and now I'm proud to say it.

andyc · 25-11-2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pasag

Nope and damn proud of it.

Same here.

FaaipDeOiad · 25-11-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk

McGrath is infinitely better than Harmison though, so it's not really anything the same.

Isn't that what he's saying? That McGrath has no rust after 12 months off and Harmison does, so Harmison should "take note"?

tooextracool · 25-11-2006, 04:55 PM

Umm this thread is just plain stupid. While i dont think Mcgrath is finished, this pitch was about as custom made for him as the one at Lords was last year. To use this performance to say that he isnt finished is being extremely short sighted. Hes the only bowler in the world who can hit a 2 inch crack with any sort of consistency.

silentstriker · 25-11-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tooextracool

Umm this thread is just plain stupid. While i dont think Mcgrath is finished, this pitch was about as custom made for him as the one at Lords was last year. To use this performance to say that he isnt finished is being extremely short sighted. Hes the only bowler in the world who can hit a 2 inch crack with any sort of consistency.

And if he can still do that, does that not show that he isn't finished?

catsa · 25-11-2006, 07:41 PM

i never written mcgrath. if it was anybody i was writting off with is Lee. I like lee still but some games he can be too expense in bowling./ i reckon clark will stay in the side he's been playing awesome

BoyBrumby · 25-11-2006, 08:28 PM

Sky talking about a bruised heel for McGrath. Must be borderline semi-serious as it seems v funny he hasn't bowled more than 3 overs on a pitch that is basically a bespoke McGrath track.

tooextracool · 26-11-2006, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

And if he can still do that, does that not show that he isn't finished?

No. If you brought Ambrose out of retirement, he might have taken a handful of wickets on that wicket tbh. For Mcgrath to not be finished he needs to bowl well in all conditions, not just the ones that suit him the most.

Matt79 · 26-11-2006, 01:18 AM

"All conditions" is a bit steep isn't it? If he's still test class and competent on surfaces that don't suit him, and this dangerous in conditions that do, I'd say he's a long way from "finished".

You seem to be equating "not finished" with "still the best in the world".

tooextracool · 26-11-2006, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt79

"All conditions" is a bit steep isn't it? If he's still test class and competent on surfaces that don't suit him, and this dangerous in conditions that do, I'd say he's a long way from "finished".

You seem to be equating "not finished" with "still the best in the world".

Okay fine, if he does it in most conditions. The point im trying to make is that one inning doesnt make a summer, and as such if he performs on other surfaces in Australia then clearly he still deserves to be in the side.

Matt79 · 26-11-2006, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tooextracool

Okay fine, if he does it in most conditions. The point im trying to make is that one inning doesnt make a summer, and as such if he performs on other surfaces in Australia then clearly he still deserves to be in the side.

Fair enough.

Scmods · 26-11-2006, 02:40 AM

Ian Chappell did, but who listens to him?

Perm · 26-11-2006, 02:45 AM

Quite a few people, I for one find Chappeli's technical analysis quite interesting and informative. Some of the stuff he says is pretty rubbish but a lot of it is good to listen to and helps lift your knowledge of some aspects of the game.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 26-11-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FaaipDeOiad

Isn't that what he's saying? That McGrath has no rust after 12 months off and Harmison does, so Harmison should "take note"?

Well the fact is that Harmison never could have been expected to be as sharp as McGrath after similar length layoffs. Therefore he shouldn't be criticized on the point.

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tooextracool International Coach Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: not far away from you Posts: 14,304	Umm this thread is just plain stupid. While i dont think Mcgrath is finished, this pitch was about as custom made for him as the one at Lords was last year. To use this performance to say that he isnt finished is being extremely short sighted. Hes the only bowler in the world who can hit a 2 inch crack with any sort of consistency. __________________ Tendulkar = the most overated player EVER!! Beckham = the most overated footballer EVER!! Vassell = the biggest disgrace since rikki clarke!!

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catsa Cricket Spectator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: australia Posts: 9	i never written mcgrath. if it was anybody i was writting off with is Lee. I like lee still but some games he can be too expense in bowling./ i reckon clark will stay in the side he's been playing awesome

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